Yea i see alot of decent used cars out there , but the only problem is , is that they can run fine right now , look nice and all , but theres no way of telling how bad they have been beat on . and im looking for a new one so i can break it in nice myself and know the condition of that car, i know there are some nice cars but its hard to trust some one saying that " they have never beat it at all" id rather just get a new one. and not have to deal with rebuilding a motor, i have looked into a 350z i really like the car also but then the situation comes up of giving my money over seas which isnt a good thing to do in these times with ford, gm and chrysler not doing so hott. but i have test drives today so ill let you guys know my decision today .... hopefully