Originally posted by TourDeForce:
Originally posted by platinum_drew:
all I know is if the dude dies, cheney should at least have some kind of trial. if it was anyone other than the VP of the USA, there would be.



NO.

There might be an additional report from law enforcement, a review of the case by a judge, but a trial will not be required - even if it was NOT the VP.



this happens all the time in hunting. (well maybe not ALL the time, but often enough). one does not go to jail for mere negligence that results in death. it would have to be more than just ordinary negligence, otherwise people would go to jail for car accidents on a daily basis. the negligence must be to a criminal degree, which in this case im positive does not exist, regardless if he did not have the stamp. it would have to be during the commission of a felony or an extreme wonton and wreckless (negligent) act. this doesnt qualify. unless of course not having the proper stamp is a felony... but it would still have to be a death that would likely result from the felonious actions. if Cheney was legally drunk then that could be a possiblity. i could care less what some Times reporter says. he is taking the utmost extreme possibility, at a stretch (at best) and trying to make mountains out of mole-hills with it. now of course, a sleaze bag lawyer can stretch anything, but against the VP of the United States? please.

now Cheney could be sued in civil court for wrongfult death, by the man's family, but this was in no way a criminal act, which is required for criminal prosecution. use common sense guys.

if these were ordinary common men, the matter would be investigated and be simply ruled an accidental killing (if everything is as the people present at the accident say it is).

taken from Dictionary.com
please note "excusable homicide" and "homicide by misadventure"
now these are not taken from a legal dictionary nor are legal definitions per se, but are more principles to demonstrate the differences.

criminal homicide
: homicide committed by a person with a criminal state of mind (as intentionally, with premeditation, knowingly, recklessly, or with criminal negligence)
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deliberate homicide
: homicide caused purposely and knowingly â??used in Montana
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excusable homicide
: homicide that is committed by accident or misfortune by a person doing a lawful act by lawful means with usual and ordinary caution and without any unlawful intent and that is excused under the law with no criminal punishment imposed; also : JUSTIFIABLE HOMICIDE in this entry
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felonious homicide
: homicide committed without justification
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homicide by misadventure
: homicide that occurs as the result of an accident caused by a person doing a lawful act with no unlawful intent
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justifiable homicide
: homicide that is committed in self-defense, in defense of another and esp. a member of one's family or sometimes in defense of a residence, in preventing a felony esp. involving great bodily harm, or in performing a legal duty and that is justified under the law with no criminal punishment imposed; also : EXCUSABLE HOMICIDE in this entry
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negligent homicide
: homicide caused by a person's criminally negligent act
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reckless homicide
: homicide caused by a person's reckless acts
NOTE: In Illinois, involuntary manslaughter committed by use of a motor vehicle is called reckless homicide.
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ve?·hic?·u?·lar homicide
/vE-'hi-ky&-l&r-/
: homicide committed by the use of a vehicle (as an automobile or boat)


technically, someone on a mission could possibly push that the act was "reckless" but that's quite a stretch, and again, against the VP

Originally posted by Tourgasm:
Sometimes you can mess up a word so bad that spell check doens't know what the hell you're talking about.