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LMFAO!

Iraq "progressive"? I'm guessing since the Mafia has had a few women starting to rise in their ranks that they must be labeled a "progressive" organization as well, right? If so, I must remember that gassing your own citizens, routine torture, unprovoked wars, standing orders for your troops to rape and pillage those that you conquer and sinking one of the stronger economies in the Middle-East into the Stone Ages is a b!tching thing to do as long as you give a broad or two a position on your cabinet, but only after they've put a bullet in the head of one of your enemies...

The ONLY women that made it in Hussein's govt. were one's with blood on their hands AND well-connected Baathists to boot. I utterly challenge you to find a Shi'ite, Kurd or Bedouin women or man in high positions after Hussein took power and before the invasion. If you were anything but Sunni, you were s**t in Hussein's Iraq....

One point of difference I do have here is that historically, women in Iraq were allowed access to higher education since the 1920's; the Shi'ite majority are now moving to prevent the continuation of such an event, which will have to be addressed. Iran and it's unwelcome influence is going to be a bear to counter, no doubt about it.

Someone once said that nature and politics both abhor a vacuum and Iraq is no exception to this rule. It seems that another rule is that no lasting democracy was birthed without a fair amount of bloodshed, so calling the game either way this early is being premature at best.

Good things ARE happening in Iraq (just don't look for your local newspaper or TV station to report on it), but whether they are culminating into something that has momentum and healthy staying power is yet to be seen.

I think we can all agree here that the underlying theme of this WHOLE SUBJECT is that noone should enjoy violence. Noone should be saying "beat those kids' asses", because that doesn't solve a damned thing. The media cannot always be trusted, especially when it is filtered by those who own it. We cannot be so easily pursuaded to believe what is shown on TV and printed in the newspaper, because if we do that then we are just a bunch of mindless fools who are unable to formulate personal thoughts and opinions.


Whatever, noone should have to live a life of violence, whether on the giving or recieving end of the stick. If you think otherwise, I don't understand you.

Well said nofx198e5

Tell that to Shi'ite women who were mutilated and raped in many of Hussein's prisons over 20+ years. I seem to recall reading about one lady who had over a couple of hundred cigarette burns over almost every square inch of her body...

...and she was one of the lucky ones that was ultimately released instead of dumped into a mass grave somewhere.

Progressive, indeed.

There do exist moments where I actually think that some Americans give a melancholy sigh for Hussein and the way he ran Iraq, just as long as they can plaster his iron-clad control over certain aspects of the country vs. what is being shakily built today.

Neither the US, Britian or any of our allies went into Iraq under the pretense of liberating it solely and utterly for the grand purpose of Democracy, though this is precisely the hand that we have been dealt and are challenged with now. Actually, it's coming close to the time where this endeavor will be passed (or forced) upon the Iraqi people to fulfill themselves.

Nah, it's going to have to get a HELL of a lot worse before I'll give Hussein a pat on the back for doing something similar to what Pol-Pot tried and failed at in Cambodia...

Well, I'm not going to defend Sadam's treatment of anybody, but the way women are treated on a daily basis in some other countries in the region is sickening to say the least. In some cases, like Pakistan, it is tradition.

I don't know anyone who wants to give Sadam his job back and seeing him act up in court reminds me of Herman Goering's behavior during the Nuremberg trials. I wonder if he is mimicking Goering or just following the advise of his defense team.

I'm just staring in amazement.....