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With all due respect, both Iraqi GDP increases and the elections have been covered by the Washington Post.
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Originally posted by Viss1:
What are some recent examples of good news that the media's missed?
That's just IT; they don't cover good or upbeat news:
IT DOESN'T LIFT RATINGS.
Talk to someone other than a journalist that's been to Iraq. I'm sure you'll get a more complete picture that way. I know that the few vets I've talked to that are stateside have drastically different stories to tell that what the media insists on puking up night after night...
Most don't paint a perfect or pretty picture, but they don't neglect to talk about the good that they have helped spread during their stay.
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Originally posted by JaTo:
Most don't paint a perfect or pretty picture, but they don't neglect to talk about the good that they have helped spread during their stay.
That's an angle that I've discussed in the past. Nothing will take away from the day-to-day, small-scale outreach and hearts & minds type stuff that occurs all the time, but you have to admit that stuff isn't "news" on the scale of soldiers clubbing kids or bombers killing a few dozen people.
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Originally posted by LoadedBakedPotatoe:
Originally posted by Viss1:
What are some recent examples of good news that the media's missed?
Talk to a military member who has been deployed over there. Civil Affairs, etc. I've been to two presentations by Lt Cols. and seen pictures of the good, etc. 3 elections, GNP is up (I forget the specific percentages), etc. The country IS making progress. If you go specifically off media coverage, one would think its complete anarchy over there.
Too bad the progress you mention is meaningless. The only measure of progress that matters is if Iraq is becoming less of a threat to the civivlized world than it was before we invaded. All indications show that if we left Iraq now it would spiral into anarchy and five years from now it may not be any different, maybe worse.
With a [censored] majority in Iraq and interference from Iran the elections may result in a government very similar to Iran. I thought the flexing of U.S. muscle in the middle east was supposed to scare those rogue nations straight. Instead it has emboldened them because they know we cannot assume another front in the "war on terror." Had we concentrated on straightening out Afganistan, perhaps these nations would have gotten the message that they could be next.
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Originally posted by Viss1:
With all due respect, both Iraqi GDP increases and the elections have been covered by the Washington Post.
Yes, it has been covered, but like this...
[size:8]US SERVICE MEMBER KILLS IRAQI KID WITH IED[/size]across the front page
[size:1]Iraq holds 3rd successful election, more on 18C[/size]
and this ubb sucks because I can't change font size.
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Friend of mine served a tour in Afghanistan & is on his second rotation in Iraq. He just visited for a few weeks and left town on Friday.
He won't even bother to watch news any more. He's got no faith that anything they put in front of you is the truth, or at least suspects that all the reports are biased to a point of view without much coverage from opposing points of view. He is basically shutting his eyes to the 'media' and will tell everybody to do the same until there is more balanced reporting.
Must be that jumbly-wumbly thing happening again.
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Originally posted by TourDeForce:
Friend of mine served a tour in Afghanistan & is on his second rotation in Iraq. He just visited for a few weeks and left town on Friday.
He won't even bother to watch news any more. He's got no faith that anything they put in front of you is the truth, or at least suspects that all the reports are biased to a point of view without much coverage from opposing points of view. He is basically shutting his eyes to the 'media' and will tell everybody to do the same until there is more balanced reporting.
If there is any progress towards Iraq becoming a stable self-sufficient democracy I would like to know about it. As far as I know, in the areas that are stable it is not because the new police force is getting control of things, it's because militias have taken control. Vigilantism seems to be the only form of justice present in Iraq today.
Time will tell whether Iraq is more stable and less threatening as a result of the invasion, but as it stands I don't think you can show me one bit of progress toward this goal.
I also want to add that I don't blame any soldiers or the military for the situation. They are in a no-win situation, trying to help a population growing increasingly hostile towards them.
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Originally posted by spgoode:
Originally posted by TourDeForce:
Friend of mine served a tour in Afghanistan & is on his second rotation in Iraq. He just visited for a few weeks and left town on Friday.
He won't even bother to watch news any more. He's got no faith that anything they put in front of you is the truth, or at least suspects that all the reports are biased to a point of view without much coverage from opposing points of view. He is basically shutting his eyes to the 'media' and will tell everybody to do the same until there is more balanced reporting.
If there is any progress towards Iraq becoming a stable self-sufficient democracy I would like to know about it. As far as I know, in the areas that are stable it is not because the new police force is getting control of things, it's because militias have taken control. Vigilantism seems to be the only form of justice present in Iraq today.
Time will tell whether Iraq is more stable and less threatening as a result of the invasion, but as it stands I don't think you can show me one bit of progress toward this goal.
Yet another educated by the 'unbiased' media coverage....keep watching the news! God forbide someone with first hand knowledge tell you whats going on!
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Originally posted by spgoode:
Originally posted by TourDeForce:
Friend of mine served a tour in Afghanistan & is on his second rotation in Iraq. He just visited for a few weeks and left town on Friday.
He won't even bother to watch news any more. He's got no faith that anything they put in front of you is the truth, or at least suspects that all the reports are biased to a point of view without much coverage from opposing points of view. He is basically shutting his eyes to the 'media' and will tell everybody to do the same until there is more balanced reporting.
If there is any progress towards Iraq becoming a stable self-sufficient democracy I would like to know about it. As far as I know, in the areas that are stable it is not because the new police force is getting control of things, it's because militias have taken control. Vigilantism seems to be the only form of justice present in Iraq today.
Time will tell whether Iraq is more stable and less threatening as a result of the invasion, but as it stands I don't think you can show me one bit of progress toward this goal.
So three elections won't cut it, huh? Nice to see you've got standards. 
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