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Originally posted by TourDeForce:
I got a price for a 2002 Taurus engine from my favorite Advance Auto Parts store.
$3,043.00!!!!!! and a $450 core charge!!!!! Freakin' nutz!! Is that typical??
I can only hope that price was mis-quoted.
I had no idea. I can remember getting V-8 short blocks with all new bearings & rings for $350 and if you wanted a long block with all new goodies they ran abot $700.
Based on that crazy chiz, building your own 3L is the ONLY way to go. For that kind of money, you can have it built & installed for you!
Sheesh, that's nuts. The Noble engine has now dropped to $4400 shipped, brand new, no exchange, from AER:
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We use a custom forged aluminum piston from Wiseco which results in a compression ratio of about 8.5:1
The rods are Scat's 4340 forged H-beam with ARP 2000 bolts. (These are not the Q-Lite version)
Standard green top, 42 lb Ford Lightning injectors.
In terms of balancing and blueprinting:
Each crank is rebalanced to match the weight of the new forged rods and pistons. Each block is checked for deck height, main bore size, etc. Heads and cranks and inspected as well. Due to small variations in piston size, we measure each and every one in our climate controlled quality dept and then make very closely matched sets of six. After this, each block is honed to match the set of six pistons. We do this in order to maintain very tight control over the piston-to-bore clearance to reduce the possiblilty of piston slap from the increased clearance requirements of a forged piston.
Other items which are different:
1) The camshafts are a unique profile with increased lift and duration.
2) The block is specially machined to install piston squirters on each cylinder.
3) The accessory drive setup requires a non-stock front cover.
4) We use a special dual frequency damper for engine smoothness. This is not an underdrive or lightweight type change.
5) Lighter weight 19 lb flywheel (SVT flywheel)
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$4400 for that engine is a very good deal. I've seen a few people post that they have spent more then that for a 3L swap.
Hmmm.
$1000 for "self" built engine
$600 pistons
$1000 rods
$500 machine/head work
$300 injectors
$1000 custom cams and oil squirters
That's $4400 already.
They even throw in a DMD & SVT flywheel.
So this means SCAT and WISECO have the designs to make rods & pistons respectively.
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What kind of numbers would you expect from that engine n/a? Comparable to a "loaded" 3L you built yourself (with all the goodies you mentioned earlier)?
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Originally posted by KingpinSVT:
What kind of numbers would you expect from that engine n/a? Comparable to a "loaded" 3L you built yourself (with all the goodies you mentioned earlier)?
Well that motor has a lower C/R...so I have no idea...just pointing that out!
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Originally posted by TourDeForce:
I got a price for a 2002 Taurus engine from my favorite Advance Auto Parts store.
$3,043.00!!!!!! and a $450 core charge!!!!! Freakin' nutz!! Is that typical??
I can only hope that price was mis-quoted.
I had no idea. I can remember getting V-8 short blocks with all new bearings & rings for $350 and if you wanted a long block with all new goodies they ran abot $700.
Based on that crazy chiz, building your own 3L is the ONLY way to go. For that kind of money, you can have it built & installed for you!
nope thats about right,i called last week out of boredom....even with my shop discount it was still 2700 and some change...
"Youth ages, immaturity is outgrown, ignorance can be educated, and drunkenness sobered, but STUPID lasts forever."-Aristophanes.
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Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoShoâ�??¢:
Originally posted by KingpinSVT:
What kind of numbers would you expect from that engine n/a? Comparable to a "loaded" 3L you built yourself (with all the goodies you mentioned earlier)?
Well that motor has a lower C/R...so I have no idea...just pointing that out!
This is true. Do they offer user definable C/Rs when ordering depending on what you plan on doing with the car? If so, it may not be a big deal to make a up the C/R some.
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Originally posted by KingpinSVT:
Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoShoâ�??¢:
Originally posted by KingpinSVT:
What kind of numbers would you expect from that engine n/a? Comparable to a "loaded" 3L you built yourself (with all the goodies you mentioned earlier)?
Well that motor has a lower C/R...so I have no idea...just pointing that out!
This is true. Do they offer user definable C/Rs when ordering depending on what you plan on doing with the car? If so, it may not be a big deal to make a up the C/R some.
I doubt they do. It's made to be turbocharged. Definitely not a good choice for those wishing to go NA.
So far, there are a few people in the 530-540hp range. I'm hoping to crest 6.
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The camshafts are a unique profile? Does that mean they're something different from all the other cams we've been using, or are they just calling SVT cams "unique"?
Matt
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1999 Sil-Fro SVT Contour 3.0L with goodies (Totalled 6/21/06)
1988 Bronco II (Sold)
You know you launch hard when you beat oncoming traffic through their own crosswalk lines.
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The cams are specifically designed for a turbocharged engine. IVO around TDC.
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That sounds like something our high-boost turbo 'tour owners might want. Has anyone looked into getting these seperately, or if it'd be worth it?
Matt
2002 Subaru Impreza WRX (WRB Stage 4+)
Old Rides:
1999 Sil-Fro SVT Contour 3.0L with goodies (Totalled 6/21/06)
1988 Bronco II (Sold)
You know you launch hard when you beat oncoming traffic through their own crosswalk lines.
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