Originally posted by RTStabler51:
Originally posted by Goonz SVT:
Originally posted by Davo:
Originally posted by RTStabler51:
Gooz, I don't know you or your history, all I konw is that you are Muslim and seem to be a 'common sense' (for a lack of better terms) Muslim, and I believe that is the exact problem with Islam is that people such as yourself aren't standing up for yourself and showing the world that these guys don't represent you. What the world sees, and thus believe is Islam, are the beheadings, rioting, etc. Stand up and voice yourself or Islam will continually get this rap. Period.



Exactly. I don't see widespread condemnation of this activity from worldwide leaders of Islam. When abortion clinics were bombed in the name of Christianity, Christian leaders worldwide publicly and incessantly condemned the attacks.





Its really hard for us living in the US to watch and condem these violences. We can condem them but the American people will go watch the news and the media will protray somthing else. However my feelings are that the cartoons were really distastefull and since the first newspaper company distributed them and had alot of riots regarding them, I felt it was a smack to the face when other Dutch newspapers did exactly the same. I mean its worse enough if you have one paper doing it but then other newspapers, this was bound to happen. The muslim world at the moment is very unstable due to the middle east. You got the whole Palestine issue, Iraq issue mainly and then Afghanistan. Its really not going oh so well for us ya know. Pakistan is pretty much doing what the US tells it to do. Pakistan is soo unstable because you got people blowing up public buses killing their own innocent people just to tell the government to stop listening to the US. Its really a shame and I do agree with most of you that in the end it comes down to lack of educataion. These people think they and their religion are under threat by others (mainly Bush, just a speculation) which has what lead to the famous "j" word jihad. This is complete nonsense where you go killing inoocent people in the name of Allah. It angers me because here we are are in the US trying to give Islam a good image and then you got these fanatics goin crazy there killing innocent people in name of Islam. Its really really hard being a muslim right now. But as I said before, the cartoons were very very distasteful imho, and the fact that other newspapers went along and published them really was a smack to the face. Violence is not the soloution to this, I would agree with friendly protests but then storming embassies and etc, complete insanity oh so i hope one day islam (the largest growing religion) has a good name to people

this is all I can say


Thanks for the response Goonz. I know this isn't really related to you, but a year or so ago, an 'artist' made a sculpture or something to that affect of the Virgin Mary out of poop or porn (can't specifically remember). Is that not offensive to Catholics? It was 'protected' under free speech / artistic value. Can you see the corralation from that to these cartoons of Muhammad? I know the majority of the Muslim population probably doesn't know about this, but just curious about your opinion.

I just wish the educated/civilized Muslim population would get a much louder voice...




i heard about it and really theres nothing one can do if its protected under free speech. As I said before, it be hard for muslims in the US to voice out cause we would sit here saying what the muslims in the middle east are doing is wrong, but then you see what they have to say, it be killing some journalist, ya know. You are dealing with a mojority of poor un-educated muslims that no matter how much we sit here try to voice out, their actions over there will speak louder unfortunatly


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