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Originally posted by Ooklah:
I was under the impression that to get an accurate reading from the speed detectors, the officers could not be moving.
negative. using laser the cop can be moving or not and it doesn't matter. just pay the fine and go to traffic school and your insurance will never know the difference. also, since you are in california, in any county other than orange county one may attend traffic school twice every 18 months with the second time being 12 hours as opposed to the usual 8. orange county, however, does not officially allow this.
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Originally posted by Ooklah:
I'm not trying to jack the thread, but I'm curious about something. I was under the impression that to get an accurate reading from the speed detectors, the officers could not be moving.
I was pulled over and cited the other night (1 AM, 67 in a 55) but the officer was driving south and I was driving north on the road. He immediately U-turned and pulled me over saying I was going 67.
Also, he did not write on the ticket how fast I was going. It just says I "exceeded max speed limit of 55MPH"
This is my first ticket of any sort. Anyone know if there's anything I can do? I don't mind paying the fine (I don't even know what it is yet), I just don't want my insurance rates to go up.
I'd definitely take this one to court. Without the cop clarifying how fast you were going, I think they'll have to throw it out. Sounds like he pulled 67 right out of his ass. 
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Originally posted by TodrasByAssociation:
I'd definitely take this one to court. Without the cop clarifying how fast you were going, I think they'll have to throw it out. Sounds like he pulled 67 right out of his ass.
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Correct me if I am wrong but aren't laser jammers highly illegal and don't the cops know you are using it when they hit you with the laser? I was under the impression that with a jammer it would send a bunch of random [censored] into the laser gun and cop would obviously know you have a jammer and pull you over immediately. If this is true, would a jammer even help?
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Laser jammer are not illegal. They are covered by the FDA.
Radar jammers are most definitely legal because you are "broadcasting" multiple radio frequencies. That is covered by the FCC.
This excludes any commercial vehicle where any jammer or detector is illegal.
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Originally posted by Ooklah:
I was under the impression that to get an accurate reading from the speed detectors, the officers could not be moving.
You are under the wrong impression.
As for the rest.. I wouldn't begin to know what to recommend you do.
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Originally posted by TodrasByAssociation:
Originally posted by Ooklah:
I'm not trying to jack the thread, but I'm curious about something. I was under the impression that to get an accurate reading from the speed detectors, the officers could not be moving.
I was pulled over and cited the other night (1 AM, 67 in a 55) but the officer was driving south and I was driving north on the road. He immediately U-turned and pulled me over saying I was going 67.
Also, he did not write on the ticket how fast I was going. It just says I "exceeded max speed limit of 55MPH"
This is my first ticket of any sort. Anyone know if there's anything I can do? I don't mind paying the fine (I don't even know what it is yet), I just don't want my insurance rates to go up.
I'd definitely take this one to court. Without the cop clarifying how fast you were going, I think they'll have to throw it out. Sounds like he pulled 67 right out of his ass.
The cop did him a favor. This is not a good reason to dispute it. If the ticket would have been written with the specific speed, the fine would be higher. As written, he could have been doing one mph over and that is what the fine will reflect.
The reason radar can get an appropriate reading when you are both moving, either different directions or the same direction, is from the "doppler" effect. Even with this, it is necessary to be pretty much lined up. Radar looses a lot of accuracy when the vector angle gets too steep.
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Originally posted by bigMoneyRacing:
Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
Bottom line (again ): the only good defenses against laser are laser jammers and Veil or similar products
No, the bottom line is to slow the f--- down and not drive like like a fool. On public roads you're responsible for more than just yourself; unless you drive off mountain like Kermit attempted.
BTW, for being such an expert on speed detector avoidance, how was it you got a ticket doing 30 over? 
LMAO. Yes, not driving like a fool is important. But slowing down. Ha.
Experience is the best way to gain knowledge. I don't claim to be an expert, but I'd rather someone have more information than "slow down" or there is "no defense against laser". I have experience in being pulled over and ticketed (as well as losing control of a vehicle,,, how do you know how to control a vehicle at its limits if you never exceed those limits). And how about you READ? I said that there isn't much you can do when it comes to instant-on laser/radar. Just like the instant on that was used on my friends that night I was ticketed. But read that thread, I was ticketed for THEM going 85. So hell, it doesn't even matter if I speed or not, I get pulled over. But what that has to do with anything other than you trying to act like a big shot, I'm not sure.
And yes, on public roads you're responsible for other people. So always go 55mph. Maintain atleast 3 seconds between you and other vehicles. Don't talk to passengers. Don't talk on a cell phone. Don't listen to radio. Don't adjust a/c. Be a saint like BMR.
I love the holier than thou people on this site.
And sorry to BMR and others if my useful advice offended you. Not everyone is perfect like you and goes the exact speed limit, so I was trying to help them out. Next time, just don't read it.
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I've ridden in plenty of police cars and sat with officers while they did radar traps. It doesn't matter if they are moving or not. Additonally, the officers are trained and certified in visual estimation of speed, and it is legitamiate in court.
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Well, when I go back and forth from school provided its not a firday night, you see one car every 20 min and hit the brakes for them becuase its probally a cop. Don't have to worry about speeding when the highways are abondoned. That said, I've never been in a hurry so I havn't had the need to do it. Disclaimer: this is a suicide wish if it is deer-jump-in-front-of-car season. Otherwise, its nice to have the road to myself.
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