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In the mean time I have to work on that boost controller......




.....and you've been SO cool about sharing other well thought out mods, I'm hoping you'll do the same with this one With a proper EBC, our platform in turbo running gear would be a decent threat out there! Even at low boost, I've been able to shock people in 2nd & 3rd

Originally posted by warmonger:
356 HP at 10psi, Think you can hang with me?


Yes, and I'll be sure to have the added info (temp, etc) included to set the stage for my dyno run. I'll be using our "Utah premium" 91 octane to do it too.

I was able to put down 247HP/262TQ @ 3.5psi, and not run all the way to the redline. The shop temp was about 20* cooler for me, so that had to help.

Should be fun to see at the very least.


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Originally posted by Swazo:
Originally posted by warmonger:


In the mean time I have to work on that boost controller......




.....and you've been SO cool about sharing other well thought out mods, I'm hoping you'll do the same with this one With a proper EBC, our platform in turbo running gear would be a decent threat out there! Even at low boost, I've been able to shock people in 2nd & 3rd

Originally posted by warmonger:
356 HP at 10psi, Think you can hang with me?


Yes, and I'll be sure to have the added info (temp, etc) included to set the stage for my dyno run. I'll be using our "Utah premium" 91 octane to do it too.

I was able to put down 247HP/262TQ @ 3.5psi, and not run all the way to the redline. The shop temp was about 20* cooler for me, so that had to help.

Should be fun to see at the very least.




Swazo, that is essentially the same power as I made at essentially the same boost!

Probably just the better fuel out here.
Yeah I was lucky that it was almost exactly at standard day here. THe correction factor was almost nil, about .98 which but that wasn't necessarily accurate either. I drove 90 miles and rolled right on the dyno and started making runs, no wait time. I did all five runs in 20 minutes too, no cool down!
I like to see what this beotch can do in full street trim with no advantages.
Things are totally different if I flush the water and put in cold water, high octane fuel, and some more timing advance. But heck, I can't get it to the ground until maybe 3rd and 4th gear anyway. lol
I expect that you will have similar results too, maybe better in the top-end with your bigger exhaust piping.
It'll be the two of us, rocking and rolling with our economical turbo kits, kicking everyones asses and STILL having money left over to take our girls to Taco Bell!
That's all I ever ate when dating my wife back in the day!!!!
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Don't forget my econo kit!!!! This is my 2nd set up too!!!


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Originally posted by stilov:
Don't forget my econo kit!!!! This is my 2nd set up too!!!




Okay, AND YOU as well!



Seriously though,

If both of you pony up, get off your behinds and dyno at 6-7lbs, 8-9lbs, and 10-12lbs, we can get a good database going of what 3L turbos on 10:1 engines and normal to above normal flowing heads/intakes are doing!
We have enough slight differences to see if one of us has some better method and maybe we can optimize it.

Hell if nothing else, Three's a charm! If all three of us can pull mid 300's with around 10psi and its all stock components. Then not only can all three of us laugh all the way to the bank (just a little dig there ) then we can actually help advance our platform as more people find that they can turbo without huge overhead on engine buildup.
I mean, someone is going to have to keep going until they break one to really find the limits, but still, look at what we have already....

A standard 3L engine, turbocharged with normal premium pump fuel can just about annihilate most of our competition cars, and is cheaper and more powerfull than all but the most built, highest pressure duratec engines running the same octane fuel.

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okay...truth be known...I have forged pistons, so I maybe I am out??? Although I have done it cheap as well...and I am 9:1 CR.


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Originally posted by stilov:
okay...truth be known...I have forged pistons, so I maybe I am out??? Although I have done it cheap as well...and I am 9:1 CR.




Oh NO, you sellout!

j/k. Just dyno it and lets see how it takes to boost and I'll forgive you.


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Also, Stilov is using the 3L cams, keeping the secondaries in his LIM and using an aluminum 3L UIM.
We all routed out piping differently too.

I'm running 9.5:1 with the combustion chamber work I did (thanks to your Hybrid write up ), even after the +1mm pistons.
When I go in for more dyno time, I can get some different psi runs for reference sake. I want to slowly turn the boost up anyway until I get to about 12psi.

It'd be a good idea to share our info to help out others to perfect the DIY turbo kit. I know I have some ideas to improve my setup already



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It's settled, all 3 of you are coming to Spring Zing. Family? Armed Forced? Work? Pshhhhh, details! We need all 3 of you on the same dyno and on the same day. I'll be the guy holding the mop, to sop up everyone's .

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well who knows where I will be...I am off next week to a 2 week training for my job (promotion). Then usually people get shipped right off somewhere after. It could be anywhere...maybe I will live closer.


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you guy with those 3l turbos are an inspiration to all of us 2.5l engines..I can't wait for the day i get my 3l and turbo ..The numbers you guys are putting down are freaking awsome..keep going..i love to see results like this,it keeps me thinking that my car could always be more!


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