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So another drawback would be the extra heat generated by the smaller turbo. Why would there be any extra heat with the T28 vs the T3/T4 unless you are boosting the hell out of it to get the power up there. I'll try and get some more specifics on the run they were talking about (psi, supporting mods, etc).
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I believe that's just what Stazi was talking about. It may take a T-28 turbo, 16lbs of boost, to do what a T3/T4 can do in 10lbs. That isn't exact, and depends on what trim you use, but it's an example. This is why telling someone how much boost you run, doesn't really give any inclination as to what kind of power you're putting out. 8lbs of boost, isn't just 8lbs of boost.  Mark
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Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
I believe that's just what Stazi was talking about. It may take a T-28 turbo, 16lbs of boost, to do what a T3/T4 can do in 10lbs. That isn't exact, and depends on what trim you use, but it's an example. This is why telling someone how much boost you run, doesn't really give any inclination as to what kind of power you're putting out. 8lbs of boost, isn't just 8lbs of boost.
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Exactly. It's all about where on the compressor efficiency table you are running. You will find that running a turbo with a bigger compressor housing at say 8psi would net the same as running a smaller turbo at say 12psi, all because the air coming out of the turbo at 12psi will be hotter, therefore less dense. Heat retention/input is a turbo engine's enemy. 
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Sure a T28 will do 320 CRANK hp but not wheels.
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Shawn at ADC did say 320fwhp but 320hp crank sounds more like it. So that's ~270 crank. I believe that.
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Once again I'll state for the record - I got 295FWHP. So that is possible if you a crazy bastage like me. Now, is that enough for me? Hell no! 
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On a 3L engine or the stock SVT?
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Originally posted by Blackcoog:
So what is the real difference between using a T28 kit vs a T3/T4 kit?
I was talking to ADC and using the T28 kit with 42lb injectors and a 255 walbro pump has netted them 320fwhp.
I see that Tom with his budget build T3/T4 setup netted 350fwhp. Granted he said he needs to do some more tuning.
Then there is DanG who has the T3/T4 setup with 314fwhp posted in NECO's 3L section.
What is the point in going with the 3L kit over the 2.5L kit? I don't see much of a differenct between Dan's numbers and the T28 kit ADC used on a 3L. Is it worth the $500 upgrade if someone had to choose between the two?
I know there are much more factors involved such as dyno types, suppporting mods, temp and humidity that day but in all honesty I would have assumed the T28 kit would crap out at say 260-280hp max.
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Ummm there is a HUGE difference. That 320 would be at the max end of what you can get out of it, probably had umpteen runs to get everything just right and maybe high octane gas. The standard T28 is just out of its league when you start breaking into that range. Also, what pressure did it make that at? Was that on a 3L or 2.5L?
I'm here to tell you that just looking at torque curves, a mildly blown 3L just performs so much better than a fully blown 2.5L too. But whatever.
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Originally posted by Stazi:
2.5 SVT
Hey...did ya see what I got on a bone stock 3L....
Huh, Dija???
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