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Originally posted by JEDsContour:
Both ADC kits are still on their website. I'm tempted to just hit the "buy now" button on the T28 kit and see if they accept the sale!
Rotten timing for me. They decide to stop production of this kit literally days before I take delivery of a low mileage 99 SVT.
Thereâ??s a â??genuine ADC turbo kit, never usedâ? for sale in the classifieds (minus instructions). Iâ??ve been in contact with the seller, but my gut is telling me to pass it by. The guy is too disorganized and does not clearly answer questions. If it were a local sale and I could inspect and inventory the parts in person... different story.
Whatever ADC does with a future kit, I hope they keep the option for an air to water intercooler. Water injection doesnâ??t appeal to me. Plenty of arguments in favor of it I know.
The only turbo kit for sale in the classifieds is Scott's and it is used...as far as the owner being trustworthy...I've known him for 5+ years and that car and turbo kit is at Todd's right now. That car has been worked on by Stazi too...there is more than enough 'big names' on CEG to look it over.
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I don't think he's talking about me, thanks though Pete
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There are 2 kits listed in Classifieds. One is new and one is not.
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Originally posted by 99cougar:
They probably mean they are lsoing money in opportunity cost. If they do something else they can more MORE money doing it. It's not that they are "losing" money on the kits...they just aren't making as much money doing that vs. something like dyno tuning, etc.
I can't blame them. If i was doing something that was not as profitable as other parts of my business and i wanted to make as much money as possible i would drop it too...or find another way to make the kit cheaper...like they are currently doing.
See, I don't see any other way to interprit this statement by ADC less than 2 weeks ago Originally posted by ArizonaDynoChip:
For those running are current turbo kit, you will be the only ones since we have decided to stop producing the current turbo kits. Basically we lose money on every kit we have built.
This quote comes from this post .
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I wonder if they would still be producing the piping? they have the jigs for them and thats one of the hardest parts from what I hear
ahh nvm just read the rest of that thread...
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Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoShoâ??¢:
The only turbo kit for sale in the classifieds is Scott's and it is used...as far as the owner being trustworthy...I've known him for 5+ years and that car and turbo kit is at Todd's right now. That car has been worked on by Stazi too...there is more than enough 'big names' on CEG to look it over.
Not the kit I was referring to.
99 Tropic Green SVT, Tan Leather, 20K miles, "Nice Twin" (factory stock).
99 Tropic Green SVT, Tan Leather, 28K miles, "Evil Twin" (Turbo AER 3L and more in progress)
96 Red LX, Opal Grey Leather 2.5L, ATX, 22K miles
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So what is the real difference between using a T28 kit vs a T3/T4 kit?
I was talking to ADC and using the T28 kit with 42lb injectors and a 255 walbro pump has netted them 320fwhp.
I see that Tom with his budget build T3/T4 setup netted 350fwhp. Granted he said he needs to do some more tuning.
Then there is DanG who has the T3/T4 setup with 314fwhp posted in NECO's 3L section.
What is the point in going with the 3L kit over the 2.5L kit? I don't see much of a differenct between Dan's numbers and the T28 kit ADC used on a 3L. Is it worth the $500 upgrade if someone had to choose between the two?
I know there are much more factors involved such as dyno types, suppporting mods, temp and humidity that day but in all honesty I would have assumed the T28 kit would crap out at say 260-280hp max.
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I pretty much well maxed out my T28 and hit 295fwhp. Getting 320 would be with REALLLLY good intercooling and realistically you right on the ragged edgew of the efficiency for the T28 at that HP. Basically for a 3L the T28 is too small.
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Then what were they talking about? What you are stating is what I would assume would happen. I was thrown for a loop when they told me 320fwhp easy.
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I guess you could hit 320 on a T28, but that would be on a dyno with cool water running through the I/C (i.e. the source of the extra 25hp), but why bother? If you want that much hp step up to the T3/T4 kit and doing it without pumping hot-as-hell air thourgh the intercooler, that way you could achieve the same power, and more, with less thermal stress on the combustion chamber and internal due to a lower intake temp.
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Knuckles rebuilt w/new bearings $55
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Gutted pre-cats $80/set
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