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Originally posted by touredon:
Originally posted by Big Jim:
The big question is what would it take to make the crank fit a 3.0 block.
Humm... stroker... lol
Is it just me, or does it look like the 3.5 is a one piece block design?
That is a computer image. It's not showing any gaps for oil pan, girdle, heads, etc.
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Originally posted by Big Jim:
The big question is what would it take to make the crank fit a 3.0 block.
You mean besides custom length rods and maybe even pistons so you don't quickly use up the few hundreths of valve clearance you have.
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Originally posted by TourDeForce:
Originally posted by warmonger:
Just you.
Actually it looks very similar to the regular 3.0 duratec.
It looks similar enough that I wonder if a 3L/2.5L head bolt pattern and galleries are the same?
I could see a 3.5L ovalport with correct waterpump drive, high compression without the valve shrouding in the 2.5L being quite the monster.
I wonder what the valve sizes are for that thing anyway?
Who will be the first to try...?? 
not tom,since he's trying to sell it
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Good writeup on the new 3.5L Cyclone engine in the January issue of Automotive Engineering. There is a cutaway display engine in the pictures. There is also interesting reading at the start of the article about Toyota engine that has direct AND port fuel injection. The supercharged and turbocharged Volkswagon engine is pretty cool too but a plumbing nightmare. Here is the link
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Originally posted by DemonSVT:
Originally posted by Big Jim:
The big question is what would it take to make the crank fit a 3.0 block.
You mean besides custom length rods and maybe even pistons so you don't quickly use up the few hundreths of valve clearance you have.
Of course., the rod length or piston pin position as well as skirt length, all would have to be taken into consideration. If the crank has the same spacings and same journal sizes that is often the hardest part of stroking an engine. There would still be a lot to figure out.
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the 3.5L block is at least 18.8mm longer than the 3.0L... that's a minimum, could very well be more...
an inch isn't much to recover, but it's going to require alot of custom work for that measly inch (mounts, axles, possible cutting), not to mention the other custom mods required, like a custom bellhousing plate, and i'm sure there are a few others... making demon's statement of turbo 3L much more attractive....
3.5L bore = 92.5
3.0L bore = 88.9
3.5L bore centers are placed 4mm farther apart than 3.0L
((92.5mm - 88.9mm) * 3 cylinders) + (4mm * 2 cylinders) = 18.8mm
There could be even more room at either end of the block so that number could very well be 22 - 25mm in difference.
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Originally posted by PuckPuck:
the 3.5L block is at least 18.8mm longer than the 3.0L... that's a minimum, could very well be more...
an inch isn't much to recover, but it's going to require alot of custom work for that measly inch (mounts, axles, possible cutting), not to mention the other custom mods required, like a custom bellhousing plate, and i'm sure there are a few others... making demon's statement of turbo 3L much more attractive....
3.5L bore = 92.5
3.0L bore = 88.9
3.5L bore centers are placed 4mm farther apart than 3.0L
((92.5mm - 88.9mm) * 3 cylinders) + (4mm * 2 cylinders) = 18.8mm
There could be even more room at either end of the block so that number could very well be 22 - 25mm in difference.
With different bore centers, there is not much chance that the the crank could be used as a basis to stroke a 3.0.
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Did you get those specs from somewhere, or are you speculating on how they made it go from 3.0 to 3.5?
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procyon posted this link a few replies up....
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Yeah, but it doesn't work for me.
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