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Originally posted by Obsidian:
Don't hate me for this, but it looks like another damn mustang.
Now that's strange... 'cause I could've sworn it WAS a Mustang. 
I'll take my GT500 in Legend Lime on A-Plan, por favor.
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I know... Ron White was right all along. "You can't fix stupid. Stupid is forever!"
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at least with the Shelby mustang youll probably be able to sell it for what you paid for it five years later. and then if the big man dies....
Originally posted by Tourgasm:
Sometimes you can mess up a word so bad that spell check doens't know what the hell you're talking about.
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And wheels aren't a big deal. What people don't realize is the amount of little things that are used to make this car pass durability testing. All of the suspension bushings & components are strengthened, chassis bracing is increased over the GT, the axles are stronger, the driveshaft has been strengthened, the clutch is a twin-disk hydralic unit similar to the one used in the Ford GT, the steering rack is even different. The suspension geometry is slightly different in adition to the upgraded shocks, springs, and sway bars.
Its not just a mustang with a big engine in it, the stuff under its skin really attribute to what makes this car so special.
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Originally posted by RTStabler51:
Originally posted by WorldTour:
How do you figure you're going to spend less then three grand for a comparable brake setup? My brake setup that I have on my focus is $3k for all four and its not nearly as good as the stock GT500 brakes.
And as for the wheels and tires... from tire rack:
18X9's ASA AR1 wheels (thats the cheap end of spectrum) $229 each.
with michelin pilots ($249 per tire 255/45-18 up front and $335 per tire 285/40-18 in the rear - again copmparable to OE equipment on the GT500) total cost not includiing shipping $2084. yeah you can get cheaper tires, but you aren't getting the performance of the OE tires (which are Goodyear F1 Supercars like on the Ford GT, the Koenigsegg CCr, and the McLaren F1)
And even if you saved money on the wheels, tires and brakes.. not only do you not get the performance but you still don't have the money to upgrade the area of the car that will be needed to handle the additional power with any durability.
Mark, its a moot point arguing. Some peolple don't understand the thoughts behind a wheel rounded car and what it would cost to build one. I gave up with my previous post, I'll let you fight the fight. :-)
First off, I know very well what a well rounded vehicle is... Volvo S60R, BMW M3, Mercedes E55 AMG. I'll stop there but I could go on and on. I understand that this will most likely be a great performance vehicle but what I don't understand is how Ford could produce this car, charge 40k or whatever it ends up costing and not address the little things that could make people say DAMN THAT LOOKS OUTRAGEOUS!!!!. Why not put a nicer set of wheels on it, and address the body kit that's on it? Working on just those two areas alone could really make the car stand out in a crowd. When you come on to an auto enthusiast website and you see alot of people divided on a vehicle that has been hyped so much, it has to somewhat concern the company that designed it. That's not to say that it will not sell well because there's obviously a loyal following of this car and they'll buy it regardless but I don't think Ford was expecting quite a few people to say it's bland, it could have been better, etc. I'm done arguing about this as it's not going to get us anywhere. If you guys like the car great, I simply think it could have been phenomenal with just a bit more work.
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body kits and extra clading add weight to an already heavy car. weight=less performance. And With the exception of the 00 R, SVT Vehicles have always been understated. Call 800 Ford SVT and they'll tell you the same thing.
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I don't care that it looks pretty close to the regular GT. If it has a supercharged 5.4L with around 500hp, I like it. Maybe my next car....
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For the most part, most of the old Cobras looked pretty damned similar to their standard GT counterparts. I'm sure Ford expected a number of people to say that they wanted a more differentiating exterior appearance, but there's at least an equal number of people that don't want one. And while I myself agree it'd be nice to see something a little different visually, as long as the regular-looking Mustang bodystyle is popular and selling in droves, why mess with an apparent good thing?
The problem with bodykits, particularly when a standard look is selling so well, is that you're almost always going to turn some people off. Mustang buyers, by and large, don't like bodywork that screams "Look at me, I'm different!". They spend their money on performance and that's largely what they want Ford to spend its' money on. The people that want to look different are going to look different no matter what Ford did to the car; they're going to put their own bodykits on the car.
The aftermarket has done an exceptional job on the Mustang's aesthetics. Let Ford put its' money in the things that the aftermarket and customers can't easily do -- like built-up 5.4L motors, 6-Speed transmissions, and maintaining good chassis balance and driving dynamics in a full suspension package.
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Originally posted by WorldTour:
body kits and extra clading add weight to an already heavy car.
isn't it like ~4000lbs?
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One thing I'd change on the GT500 is the wheels, I'd add the wheels I was going to put on the Mustang I "WAS" going to get 
but thats the only thing I'd change!