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Originally posted by Honkeytonk Monkey:
Keep thinking that. Once you build your 'bad ass GT' and pulley swap and a tune will take your B.A. designation away from you and Mr. T. The only arguement less is "My insurance is for a GT and yours is for a Cobra."
For the extra 12K, he could have twin turbos on his bad ass GT and knock the SC car on it's ass. And his insurance will still be lower.
As for styling, it's just as bland as the regular mustang from every angle but head on.
You must be building a 87-93 bad ass GT. Otherwise your going to be sitting there roast tires and breaking your drivetrain alone, since 12k is going to be your motor and TT setup alone, but thanks try again.
Another thing your GT isn't going to have is realiability/drive-ability.
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Originally posted by CLASSVT:
Everyone is entitled to their opinions. But most of your opinions suck. For those looking for some outrageous styling, go check out the mid '60s and early '70's Shelbys. There was nothing outrageous about those either. But they are bad-a$$ cars, as this one is. The black along the ground effects is to visually "elongate" the car. And just as the previous Cobra, it looks somewhat docile until you lower it and slap some wider wheels on the back. Sure you could throw twin turbos in a GT, but there goes your reliability as well as your warranty. As far as I'm concerned this is my next vehicle.
Well said. 
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 IMO the "Shelby" letters should've been stretched out over the entire decklid and the 3rd brake light should've been moved inside the car to make it happen  The letters are just too damn big to be that close together, doesn't anyone look at things like that  Its the way they did it on the old one, so why not this one, it just makes sense. I read that Ford is trying to get 500 hp into the car to justify the name, now thats thinking, Ford!
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I like the toss a turbo on the Mustang GT comment...
Ford a good turbo setup you're going to spend a good 6 grand. (for a bolt on setup)
To upgrade the brakes you are going to spend another 3 grand.
You then are going to spend another 2 grand on wheels and tires so you can fit the upgraded brakes.
Then you figure you are going to have to upgrade the clutch & flywheel... another $500
Then you need a better LSD... there's another $500
We just hit the $12,000 mark and we have a stock looking turbo Mustang GT that may make more power then a GT500, but it will overheat because you you don't have the cooling capacity needed for the setup and you can't get enough air through the front end of the car and out through the hood.
The car's trans and drive shaft isn't going to take the added power of the engine and the engine.
I'm sorry... you aren't going to get the power, performance & durability as a GT500 by buying a GT and dropping $12k into it.
As for it looking bland... So has pretty much every Cobra (or every SVT vehicle for that matter) that came before it.
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Originally posted by The EX- Striped SVT:
IMO the "Shelby" letters should've been stretched out over the entire decklid and the 3rd brake light should've been moved inside the car to make it happen The letters are just too damn big to be that close together, doesn't anyone look at things like that Its the way they did it on the old one, so why not this one, it just makes sense. I read that Ford is trying to get 500 hp into the car to justify the name, now thats thinking, Ford!
The cost of retooling the decklid prevents SVT from doing that unfortunately.
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Originally posted by WorldTour:
As for it looking bland... So has pretty much every Cobra (or every SVT vehicle for that matter) that came before it.
I agree that the focus was bland but I don't think the last generation cobra was. I certainly don't think the CSVT is bland at all, hence the reason most people turn their heads wondering what it is.
Btw, I think some of your prices are a bit off. 2k for wheels is a bit on the high side and so is 3k for brakes. If you shop around you can certainly do better than that. Remember there's a tremendous aftermarket for this car and parts are readily available. I'm still curious to see what the cobra will end up costing because I seriously doubt it will be 40k and you know there will not be any incentives or rebates. Even if the 12k in mods doesn't get you to the same performance figures "it would be close" as the GT500 I'm sure it will end up looking a hell of alot better. 
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How do you figure you're going to spend less then three grand for a comparable brake setup? My brake setup that I have on my focus is $3k for all four and its not nearly as good as the stock GT500 brakes.
And as for the wheels and tires... from tire rack:
18X9's ASA AR1 wheels (thats the cheap end of spectrum) $229 each.
with michelin pilots ($249 per tire 255/45-18 up front and $335 per tire 285/40-18 in the rear - again copmparable to OE equipment on the GT500) total cost not includiing shipping $2084. yeah you can get cheaper tires, but you aren't getting the performance of the OE tires (which are Goodyear F1 Supercars like on the Ford GT, the Koenigsegg CCr, and the McLaren F1)
And even if you saved money on the wheels, tires and brakes.. not only do you not get the performance but you still don't have the money to upgrade the area of the car that will be needed to handle the additional power with any durability.
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Don't hate me for this, but it looks like another damn mustang.
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Its only the rims that make the car look bad!!
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Originally posted by WorldTour:
How do you figure you're going to spend less then three grand for a comparable brake setup? My brake setup that I have on my focus is $3k for all four and its not nearly as good as the stock GT500 brakes.
And as for the wheels and tires... from tire rack:
18X9's ASA AR1 wheels (thats the cheap end of spectrum) $229 each.
with michelin pilots ($249 per tire 255/45-18 up front and $335 per tire 285/40-18 in the rear - again copmparable to OE equipment on the GT500) total cost not includiing shipping $2084. yeah you can get cheaper tires, but you aren't getting the performance of the OE tires (which are Goodyear F1 Supercars like on the Ford GT, the Koenigsegg CCr, and the McLaren F1)
And even if you saved money on the wheels, tires and brakes.. not only do you not get the performance but you still don't have the money to upgrade the area of the car that will be needed to handle the additional power with any durability.
Mark, its a moot point arguing. Some peolple don't understand the thoughts behind a wheel rounded car and what it would cost to build one. I gave up with my previous post, I'll let you fight the fight. :-)
Ryan
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