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Originally posted by dnewma04:
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knee was down at 11. Next play VY runs the ball and all of the USC defenders get out of the way and let him score just like every other time he ran the ball. Complaining about officiating is useless, if you didn't play well enough to overcome a couple bad calls you didn't deserve to win. The game came down to USC not executing on 4th and 2, not a bad call.




True, but if they get that call right, they likely aren't in the game. USC didn't do what they had to do, simple as that. But, the officiating put them in a position where Texas was able to come back.




And if they had called Kelson's interception properly then Texas could have widened the gap at half-time. Or maybe it not being called properly just strengthened their effort to pull through in the second half. Or maybe Texas couldn't have returned it for any points, but with a halftime score of 16-7, USC is demoralized and gets stomped in the 2nd half, or perhaps it would rally them for a total domination. Who knows. You can "What if" a game to death if you really want.


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Good Job Texas!!!!!

I was so happy to see the University of Spoiled Children lose.

Was really a great game.


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Originally posted by SVTatGT:
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knee was down at 11. Next play VY runs the ball and all of the USC defenders get out of the way and let him score just like every other time he ran the ball. Complaining about officiating is useless, if you didn't play well enough to overcome a couple bad calls you didn't deserve to win. The game came down to USC not executing on 4th and 2, not a bad call.





x2.....well said....like they wouldn't have scored anyway


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Originally posted by MxRacer:
anyone else have to wonder about youngs ability to do well in the pros? does he have the arm for it?




I personally think that his success in the NFL is up in the air. Vince Young is a fast strong runner with a strong accurate arm. My problem is his throw and release, it is so low almost like a sidearm and I think that may really hurt him in the NFL.


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Originally posted by sigma:
Originally posted by dnewma04:
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knee was down at 11. Next play VY runs the ball and all of the USC defenders get out of the way and let him score just like every other time he ran the ball. Complaining about officiating is useless, if you didn't play well enough to overcome a couple bad calls you didn't deserve to win. The game came down to USC not executing on 4th and 2, not a bad call.




True, but if they get that call right, they likely aren't in the game. USC didn't do what they had to do, simple as that. But, the officiating put them in a position where Texas was able to come back.




And if they had called Kelson's interception properly then Texas could have widened the gap at half-time. Or maybe it not being called properly just strengthened their effort to pull through in the second half. Or maybe Texas couldn't have returned it for any points, but with a halftime score of 16-7, USC is demoralized and gets stomped in the 2nd half, or perhaps it would rally them for a total domination. Who knows. You can "What if" a game to death if you really want.




What about the Texas fumble in the 4th they called an incomplete catch. that was a fumble.

No game should be decided on bad calls. If you do play well enough to win you should not be short changed by an officials call.


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I got home from work to see the go ahead touchdown I guess the home field advantage and star power didn't help this time Congrats to Texas and congrats to USC, it was quite a run! BTW, USC would CRUSH our Lions, no doubt about it


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No game should be decided on bad calls. If you do play well enough to win you should not be short changed by an officials call.




That is so true. USC got robbed.


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Originally posted by kipsvt98:
Originally posted by MxRacer:
anyone else have to wonder about youngs ability to do well in the pros? does he have the arm for it?




I personally think that his success in the NFL is up in the air. Vince Young is a fast strong runner with a strong accurate arm. My problem is his throw and release, it is so low almost like a sidearm and I think that may really hurt him in the NFL.




I think he has enough athletic ability to make it in the NFL as a quarterback. He will have to revamp his throwing motion though, but with a quality QB coach that shouldn't be a problem. I wasn't all that impressed with his throws yesterday, he didn't make a single difficult throw that I can remember, he just had the luxery of lobbing the ball wide open recievers. The one throw he tried to throw into coverage should have been intercepted but the LB dropped it. The reason he was so impressive yesterday was his 200 yards rushing, but that would not happen against NFL linebackers, the amount of missed tackles by USC yesterday was astounding.

A primarly running quarterback can only make it so far in the NFL. Look at Mike Vick. The first few years he was in the league he could run all over everybody, but his passing ability is still subpar. That got the Falcons to the NFC championship last year, but they missed the playoffs this year and still haven't had back to back winning seasons. Eventually opposing coaches are going to figure out how to gameplan against you, but the one thing you can't gameplan for is precise passing. There are holes in every defense and if you have a quarterback who can consistently find them and deliver the ball in the right spot you are going to score consistantly. If Vick or Young can develop that skill as well as the ablility to run, they would be very successfull (aka McNabb the previous 3 years)


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Originally posted by Bill J. at Team Ford:
Originally posted by sigma:
Originally posted by dnewma04:
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knee was down at 11. Next play VY runs the ball and all of the USC defenders get out of the way and let him score just like every other time he ran the ball. Complaining about officiating is useless, if you didn't play well enough to overcome a couple bad calls you didn't deserve to win. The game came down to USC not executing on 4th and 2, not a bad call.




True, but if they get that call right, they likely aren't in the game. USC didn't do what they had to do, simple as that. But, the officiating put them in a position where Texas was able to come back.




And if they had called Kelson's interception properly then Texas could have widened the gap at half-time. Or maybe it not being called properly just strengthened their effort to pull through in the second half. Or maybe Texas couldn't have returned it for any points, but with a halftime score of 16-7, USC is demoralized and gets stomped in the 2nd half, or perhaps it would rally them for a total domination. Who knows. You can "What if" a game to death if you really want.




What about the Texas fumble in the 4th they called an incomplete catch. that was a fumble.

No game should be decided on bad calls. If you do play well enough to win you should not be short changed by an officials call.




That incomplete pass could have gone either way. What about that crap of a late hit call in the first quarter, if that call wasn't made USC would have never scored. This could seriously go on forever. Matt Leinhert has said himself I feel like we lost, and we didn't do enough to win. Lets face it USC lost and Texas won, I as well hate games with shotty officiating. But it happens and at times it happened last night.

I'm not sure that you can really make the arguement that USC played well enough to win and the officals blew it. Texas most certainly played well enough to win and they did. Hey, all USC had to do was stop Vince Young on the last drive and they couldn't. So Texas deservingly wins the National Title.


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Originally posted by Dj Perico:
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No game should be decided on bad calls. If you do play well enough to win you should not be short changed by an officials call.




That is so true. USC got robbed.




They did not play well enough to win, they blew a 12 point lead with 4 minutes left and that had nothing to do with officiating. Playing well enought to win would have been converting 4th down or coming up with a defensive stop


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