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Originally posted by Ray:
Hey, man... I am, believe it or not, not on EITHE side. so whatever excuses or reasons, or whatever you have are yours and yours alone. You don't need to "prove" anything to me, though you do sound like a rather intelligent young man.

I am not advocating it, I'm not saying not to.. I am saying that I find this entire conversation hilarious, and the fact that BOTH SIDES think that they AREN'T doing what they are accusing the OTHERSIDE of doing. (making excuses) is downright funny.

the global argument over this ain't gonna change because of what some Contour owners (and a few trolls, I won't leave you guys out! ) say about it on this site.

But, going to another site that would welcome this entire blown-out-of-proportion argument a little more open-armed would be a great thing. (again, I am not leaving anyone out.. everyone can feel free to copy/paste this entire thread and move it along to ANY other forum... )





I understand what you're saying Ray. I'm just saying I'm not trying to make excuses or really accuse the otherside of anything. I'm just debating the topic. I respect others' opinions, though will debate them, and definitely respect their choices. Debates occasionally do sway the few open minded people in this world to one side or another. At the very least, it can show BOTH sides how the other side feels and why.

I agree arguing it on a contour forum will do nothing/very little. Sharing on other forums will result about the same. I wish I could openly discuss this topic in public. Unfortunately, it would hurt my chances at job opportunities,etc. So until I'm financially secure, the internet is my only outlet, however useless it may be.


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Originally posted by Bill J. at Team Ford:


Weed is a plant, growing naturally in the wild. The only thing needed to enjoy it's benefits is to let it dry.

Alcohol has to be manufactured in some form.



Let juice sit out.. its fermented. tada.. albeit, it ain't the greatest tasting stuff on earth, but it is natural, too..
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The health affects from alcohol are MUCH greater than MJ. You can get liver disease, pancreas problem, brain problems, and even heart problems to name a few.

There are NO links of MJ causing cancer, http://www.webmd.com/content/article/23/1728_57309




I can't catch any of those things from shooting anyone, either.. but trying to justify that IT should be okay, is as ludacris as comparing weed and ciggarettes (simply because they are both smokeable, or held in the hand, or what?) You guys keep talking about how weed can be inhaled and not burned... well.. that removes your cig:weed correlation, so stop using it for a comparison. if you aren't gonna leave them the same, they aren't the same.. simple as that. You guys won't "allow" a comparison of an SRT-4 to a v8 cobra, because its "apples and oranges" then so is this. either you smoke both, or you don't, in which case weed is MORE harmful than a cigarette (none of that.. well I don't smoke as many joints as cigarettes, crap.. how MANY you CHOOSE to smoke doesn't make the single ONE any less dangerous...)
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MJ should be legalized. It can be regulated and taxed just like alcohol and cigarettes (both my parents died of Lung Cancer and my mother-in-law is in the hospital as I type this with pulmonary (sp?) problem. All of them have smoked for over 50 years.


Then, personally, I don't understand the reasoning behind wanting to ALLOW ANOTHER (that's all it is, really) form of trouble... albeit not cancer..)

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Plus Cigs are NASTY, they make your clothes, house, car, breath, and everything just NASTY. Ever clean a house that had a smoker living in it? How about when you go out to the bar and you smell your clothes the next day. NASTY.



Personally, so is weed.. I can't stand the smell. I can always tell when someone around me either just smoked it, or IS smoking it. Their house stinks, they stink... Its like being in a night-club.. only at home. gross..


Again.. a grain of salt.. just a few observations of peoples "reasonings".. Forgive the incoherent ramblings if there are any, I tried to punctuate the entire thing as I was going.. so I may have some EXTRA parenthesis, or something in there.


EDIT: I don't want people to jump to any conclusions... I would be jumping anyone else's "reasonings" if they were off, too... If the anti-weed people were saying that cigs were harmless, comparatively speaking, etc, I would re-quote them, and find the irregularities in that, too.. Its just what I do... nothing personal, or of any particular persuation.



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Originally posted by Ray:


Forgive the incoherent ramblings if there are any, I tried to punctuate the entire thing as I was going.. so I may have some EXTRA parenthesis, or something in there.






Ladies and Gentlemen heres a prime example of why you should not smoke pot.....it makes you lazy


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Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
My reasoning is that alcohol is legal, yet marijuana is safer, has similar effects but to a lesser degree, and illegal. So marijuana SHOULD be legal.




Or alcohol should be illegal...ever hear of prohibition?

WHAT DOES IT TAKE FOR A MOD TO LOCK THIS AND BAN RELIGIOUS THREADS!!!


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Jill Wagner smokes weed?


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Originally posted by Kremithefrog:


WHAT DOES IT TAKE FOR A MOD TO LOCK THIS AND BAN RELIGIOUS THREADS!!!




THIS WAS NEVER MEANT TO BE A RELIGOUS THREAD!

The mods can feel free to lock this, I have no problem. It did get blown out of proportion and it has left it's original intent. I do not want to see people pick on each other. We all live different lives, some completley different than each other. We are here at CEG for one common goal. To help each other.

Just like many different things as religion, politics, and even cars for that mattter, sometimes we have to agree to disagree.

Have a nice night all.



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Carl Sagan smoked weed and wrote about it in one of his books.


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Bill Gates Rocks the Ganj.

How else can you explain his hair and wardrobe when he the national deficit of England sitting in his checking account.

Mr. Gates... Can I borrow an ATM slip to write my phone number for this chick I like?


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LOL!

So does William F. Buckley (or so I hear), though while I might admire the accomplishments and vision that Sagan, Gates and Buckley all have given the human race, I don't really think toking up has much to do with their mental abilities or their accomplishments in life.

If Unix and LSD can both be attributed to the brainiacs that populated Berkley in the '60s, it wouldn't surprise me one bit that Gates came up with the shrink-wrapped virus magnet that Windows is while on a month-long hookah bender...


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Good work, Dave. You're definitely the #1 interior guy around these parts; always innovating.


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