Originally posted by Ray:
Hey, man... I am, believe it or not, not on EITHE side. so whatever excuses or reasons, or whatever you have are yours and yours alone. You don't need to "prove" anything to me, though you do sound like a rather intelligent young man.

I am not advocating it, I'm not saying not to.. I am saying that I find this entire conversation hilarious, and the fact that BOTH SIDES think that they AREN'T doing what they are accusing the OTHERSIDE of doing. (making excuses) is downright funny.

the global argument over this ain't gonna change because of what some Contour owners (and a few trolls, I won't leave you guys out! ) say about it on this site.

But, going to another site that would welcome this entire blown-out-of-proportion argument a little more open-armed would be a great thing. (again, I am not leaving anyone out.. everyone can feel free to copy/paste this entire thread and move it along to ANY other forum... )




I understand what you're saying Ray. I'm just saying I'm not trying to make excuses or really accuse the otherside of anything. I'm just debating the topic. I respect others' opinions, though will debate them, and definitely respect their choices. Debates occasionally do sway the few open minded people in this world to one side or another. At the very least, it can show BOTH sides how the other side feels and why.

I agree arguing it on a contour forum will do nothing/very little. Sharing on other forums will result about the same. I wish I could openly discuss this topic in public. Unfortunately, it would hurt my chances at job opportunities,etc. So until I'm financially secure, the internet is my only outlet, however useless it may be.

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