Contour Enthusiasts Group Archives Forums General Dyno and Drag what do you guys think of this?

Originally posted by wantsansvt:

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I am not posting between both boards. Dom looks at it him self and i have no doubt about it. He reads all this [censored] himself. So before you go accusing anyone calm down a lil bit. so if you have a prob with what he is saying then go to him not me. I toook that just to show what i read and if i really wanted to be an ass then i would cut and past all the [censored] that is beeing said. If you dont believe he is watching this himself why dont you ask him?

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Since you are responding to me, I'm gonna hold you responsible for your own posting, wherever it came from and rip you a new azz!

You are trolling to cause trouble. Period. If Dom wants to reach me he just needs to pm me on FCO, or look up my email and send me an email.
If he asked you to post it and you decide too, then you made yourself part of the team and open yourself to ANY comments, good/bad that can be said about the topic, methods, scruples related to it. You are now responsible. If you don't want to be the spokesperson, well its too late for one, and next time let it be a lesson to you not to get in the middle of something like that. Live and learn, I hope you are young guy, that way you'll have time to learn how not to be a TOOL!

I've had plenty of spirited conversations with Dom and though we don't always agree, he has come up with some good ideas and he has always been respectfull of me. I've got no personal beef with anyone over there!

This thing between him and Demon is old school stuff and I'm not part of that. I don't intend to get in the middle of what isn't my business. Somehow I don't think they've like each other all that well for a long time....they definitely don't go out boozin or spoonin together!

However, if its information in a public forum then I'll debate performance results all day long.

My post had to do with the original posters question, so I gave my take on it. I read Demons posts and I see what he is trying to say and I for the most part agree that he has a point.

AS far as the results:
I believe that Dom threw in a SVT PCM and it is working. I think it kicks ass that someone went and figured out if it will work or not. I don't see how it should embarrass anyone that it works/doesn't work though and I think this big To-Do is because of old tensions. I don't know any specifics of the car other than what his blog shows.
Now read my lips:
I have no problem believing that cleaning up the spark, advancing the timing and leaning out some fuel will improve an engine that much. I've worked on too many cars and tuned them up, advanced the timing, and done little tricks to them and seen the gains to disaggree.
I'm willing to bet there is an issue with the old pcm or as Dom stated the factory tune on that PCM sucks.

Here is the test, take an XCAL2 and tune up the old pcm on the dyno with spark and air fuel. Dyno.

Put in the SVT pcm and then Dyno. Should be pretty close, or the tuned stock pcm would be better.
Put in the SVT pcm and take an XCAL2 and tune it. Should end up EXACTLY the SAME!
The point that I think Demon was making is that the engine won't magically gain any more performance than it was originally capable of just because of the tuning device. It will achieve its maximum power with tuning.
The old pcm wasn't doing that. The SVT pcm seems to be doing that.
I think it is a good lesson in WHY you would want to tune your stock engine FIRST, to see where you really are.