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I know this is little sobering before the holidays but I thought it's relavent to CEG'ers. Most of own autombiles and all of us rely on fossil fuel in our daily lives.

The question is what happens when it runs out? What are the consequences of having permenent shortage?

When you get a chance, pls give the website a fair chance and come to your own conclusions.

http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/

Lots of opinions here.

Originally posted by TSIN03SE:

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When you get a chance, pls give the website a fair chance and come to your own conclusions.

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The sky is falling, the sky is falling. We are working on alternatives already. Here is some more info for you.

http://www.peakoil.net/Newsletter/NL37/Newsletter37.html

That thread is cluttered with opinions on who's controlling the oil and such. What I saw, and is referring your attention to is, not who but what's available to control.

If indeed Hubbert's theory is correct(and apparently he was correct for American oil reserves) this is a wake up call for the global oil supply(regardless of who's controlling it).

Haven't we been saying oil is going to run out for the last fifty or so years?

Meh.

Back in the 70s, when I was in HS, we were told we only have 30 or 40 years of fossil fuels left. Still mucho reserves available, consumption is up simply because of economic growth and more countries, like China, are using more of the resources too.

Considering that, there are still huge untapped reserves in Russia & China, and there is also additional development going on to tap into oil-sand reserves - which were not previouslly considered a viable alternative. Canada is taking the lead in the oil-sands R&D IIRC, and it is becoming comercially attractive to tap those reserves.

Which reminds me, is China part of the KIOTO (sp?) treaty?? With nearly 1/4 of the worlds population, and the development expected over the next several decades, their output of pollutants will be staggering compared to anything the U.S. has ever done. I wonder if the Eco-geeks will run over there & harrass them...?

The oil reserves are running out. US reserves have peaked in 1970's thus the start of "the oil is running out" scenerio. But the global market alleviated homeland running day and the Middle East and Russia filled in the gap.

The problem is, they too will runout as both sources have already peaked. This means there is no turn back point - the supply is depleting and there is no more.

When I think about how the petroleum is affecting every part of my life, it's sobbering to think the future will have to cope with something different. I think it's the industrialized nations that will suffer most. Afterall, if don't already use Hefty garbage bag to collect your garbage, or have central heating to heat your home, what difference does that matter?