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Re: Euro Exhaust Sound #1463583 12/19/05 02:31 PM
Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,978 SEMIEGLOLlerskates P Pudmunkie Hard-core CEG\'er
Pudmunkie Hard-core CEG\'er P Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,978 SEMIEGLOLlerskates	Originally posted by Stazi: The Borla kit is TOO F'EN SMALL FOR A 3L PEOPLE - GET THAT THROUGH YOUR THICK HEADS! It's no different in size to the stock SVT exhaust so in my eyes - waste of money. Sure it sounds better than stock, but almost any exhaust does! Well hes running a stockish type exhaust right now, So its not like anyone was wrong to suggest the borla :P Alex '99 SVT Contour -=\|WANTED: Vortech, working or not \|=-

Re: Euro Exhaust Sound #1463584 12/19/05 02:32 PM
Joined: Nov 2000 Posts: 10,015 The land of Vegemite and Foste... S Stazi Hard-core CEG'er
Stazi Hard-core CEG'er S Joined: Nov 2000 Posts: 10,015 The land of Vegemite and Foste...	Alex how would dropping 6+ bills on a Borla constiutute a cost-effective improvement???? 2000 SVT Turbo 295hp/269ftlb@12psi #1 for Bendix Brakes Kits! Knuckles rebuilt w/new bearings $55 AUSSIE ENDLINKS $70 Gutted pre-cats $80/set A lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on mine!

Re: Euro Exhaust Sound #1463585 12/19/05 04:05 PM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,516 Georgia Tech S SVTatGT Hard-core CEG\'er
SVTatGT Hard-core CEG\'er S Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,516 Georgia Tech	With the 3L I would definetely get an exhaust with bigger piping if you have the $. Cameron 98 Black CSVT #2958

Re: Euro Exhaust Sound #1463586 12/19/05 05:10 PM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 9,872 Pakistan, MA G Goonz SVT Addicted CEG\'er
Goonz SVT Addicted CEG\'er G Joined: May 2004 Posts: 9,872 Pakistan, MA	and they dont make borla's anymore.. #0009

Re: Euro Exhaust Sound #1463587 12/19/05 06:52 PM
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 9 Alpharetta, GA G Groove Merchant OP Newbie
OP Groove Merchant Newbie G Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 9 Alpharetta, GA	Originally posted by todras: So did you do the 3L yourself? I'm just trying to see if you actually found all info w/o even posting. No. As I mentioned I have zero mechanical skills. Craig Curtis, an ASE Certified Master Tech did all of the work. He is a former CSVT owner himself. If anybody is in the metro Atlanta area I highly recommend him. He can be reached via e-mail: craigcurtis8@yahoo.com or phone:678.458.7266 '99 SVT 3.0L Hybrid

Re: Euro Exhaust Sound #1463588 12/19/05 07:05 PM
Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 487 T teamSVTour CEG\'er
teamSVTour CEG\'er T Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 487	when I was referring to Borla I meant the trubenz/borla kit. Its bigger diameter tubing then stock and the Borla muffler is along the line of what you want. You said you like the stock sound....well Borla resembles the stock exhaust note but a tad bit louder then stock. I believe this to be exactly what your looking for. SOLD Polarg M-28 super bright white bulbs. Replace yellow stock license plate bulbs. See add in classifieds. WANTED:: EVO style CF hood

Re: Euro Exhaust Sound #1463589 12/19/05 07:09 PM
Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,978 SEMIEGLOLlerskates P Pudmunkie Hard-core CEG\'er
Pudmunkie Hard-core CEG\'er P Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,978 SEMIEGLOLlerskates	Originally posted by Stazi: Alex how would dropping 6+ bills on a Borla constiutute a cost-effective improvement???? Shhh, Id be much more willing to sell it for less than six Dont cockblock stazi! Alex '99 SVT Contour -=\|WANTED: Vortech, working or not \|=-

Re: Euro Exhaust Sound #1463590 12/19/05 07:09 PM
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 9 Alpharetta, GA G Groove Merchant OP Newbie
OP Groove Merchant Newbie G Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 9 Alpharetta, GA	Originally posted by DemonSVT: You are correct that the Dynomax Ultraflow mufflers are what you want. They are sporty & throaty sounding. Magnaflows are a bit loud & boomy. Kind of small block reminiscent. (slightly) They can be annoying because they are boomy. Flowmaster sucks. Loud, droning, boomy, and they are not straight through design. They serve one purpose in life. They sound decent on a small displacement V8. Skip them at all cost. Demon, Do you recommend replacing the center res. as well as the rear mufflers with Dynomax units? In a later post, Stazi advocates replacing the rears only and keeping the magnaflow center. Also, it seems that the consensus on this forum is that the stock tubing is too small for a 3.0L. If I do replace the system from the y-pipe back, how large is large enough? The car is NA now and I have no future plans for any significant additional mods (i.e. turbo, SC, etc.) '99 SVT 3.0L Hybrid

Re: Euro Exhaust Sound #1463591 12/19/05 07:47 PM
Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 9,602 KC, MO D DemonSVT_dup1 Hard-core CEG'er
DemonSVT_dup1 Hard-core CEG'er D Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 9,602 KC, MO	The difference in sounds between two near indentically made resonators (like Magnaflow or Dynomax straight throughs) are going to sound remarkably close. A resonators main job is drone reduction. The only real way to get a different exhaust tone with a resonator is by flow restriction (size) or a different internal design. (like baffles of chambers ) The mufflers are what shape the final overall tone & volume of the exhaust. (i.e. muffle ) The Dynomax Ultraflow (SS & race) mufflers are a bit higher pitch because they are less restrictive then the others available. I chose Magnaflow rears because it was easier to package their small mufflers in the rear. (already 3 years ago ) Packaging 9x13 mufflers back there between the suspension and the tow hooks is a big PITA. If I had to do it again I would have just stuffed some DynoMax mufflers in there. They do fit because I have done it a couple times. 2000 SVT #674 13.47 @ 102 - All Motor! It was not broke; Yet I fixed it anyway.

Re: Euro Exhaust Sound #1463592 12/19/05 08:47 PM
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 9 Alpharetta, GA G Groove Merchant OP Newbie
OP Groove Merchant Newbie G Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 9 Alpharetta, GA	Originally posted by DemonSVT: The difference in sounds between two near indentically made resonators (like Magnaflow or Dynomax straight throughs) are going to sound remarkably close. A resonators main job is drone reduction. The only real way to get a different exhaust tone with a resonator is by flow restriction (size) or a different internal design. (like baffles of chambers ) The mufflers are what shape the final overall tone & volume of the exhaust. (i.e. muffle ) The Dynomax Ultraflow (SS & race) mufflers are a bit higher pitch because they are less restrictive then the others available. I chose Magnaflow rears because it was easier to package their small mufflers in the rear. (already 3 years ago ) Packaging 9x13 mufflers back there between the suspension and the tow hooks is a big PITA. If I had to do it again I would have just stuffed some DynoMax mufflers in there. They do fit because I have done it a couple times. Thanks Demon, I checked the DynoMax website and there is an "Ultraflow" and an "Ultraflow SS". According to their website the Ultraflow flows better (i.e. higher cfm rating). The difference was small so it probably doesn't matter for my application. Here's a stretch, but do you recall the part# for the DynoMax rears you installed? If not, what are their approximate dimensions? (9 x 13???) '99 SVT 3.0L Hybrid

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