actually you are wrong about the '03 cobra needing a tune and other things...a simple pulley swap is all that is required,nothing else....ok take your gto and an '03 cobra....put a cai,and full exhaust on both...the cobra will be faster,then add in a less than $200 pulley and it is no contest.....use your all motor excuse all you want,but facts are facts and it would be more cost efficient to mod the cobra and it will be faster period...and for your information,there are 05 gt's in the 12's with nothing more than bolt ons and a tune...

and as far as the altima...you are still comparing a motor that wasn't even available in comparable year altima to the csvt...compare a '00 to a '00 and like i said there is no comparison...your trying to compare a car built a few years later,which i would hope to god would beat a csvt...

and as far as your comment that ford has put itself in a hole it can't get out of...please explain yourself....the mustang outsells any competition it may have,so i don't see how that is a bad thing...and they keep the research and development as well as trying new things...the new mustangs 3 valve motor is making as much hp as earlier 4valve motors..a step in the right direction imo...

and your comments on detroit muscle...well you do realize that the shelby gt500 will be out this year right...and that's with 450 or more hp,which will spank your gto,charger srt8,etc.....and then you bring up the camaro which is no longer even built(hopefully gm learned that a great motor in a pos car will only take you so far)...and when it does come back out(if at all)who knows what the mustang or svt mustang will be packing under the hood...so your comments are pure speculation at best...

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