that's funny that a gm owner is calling a ford engine bay a mess to work on....lol...at least half the motor isn't pushed halfway under the dash...and have you actually looked at an '03-'04 cobra under the hood...the supercharger sits ON TOP of the engine,and doesn't clutter up the engine bay at all....and a stock cobra will beat your gto stock for stock...and $200 in mods and it will kill your gto(put the same $200 in your gto and see what it gets you)nowhere near what it will get the cobra...

funny thing is your talking about the'05 mustang as if its weak or something...you do realize it runs neck and neck with the 350 hp(04)gto,both run mid 13's stock and pretty much a drivers race....and it isn't that far behind your '05 gto....and it wouldn't take forced induction to gain a couple of tenths to run neck and neck with you...

and then you why not compare comparable year altima to the csvt...the new body altima didn't come out until after '01 when the svt was no longer made....so comparing a car that is a couple years newer is ridiculous...but if you compare a '00 altima to a '00 altima therer is no comparision,the tour would probably be on top in any catagory...

and i don't think demon was trying to say that pushrod engines were bad,just that they are nothing new...the ls1 and ls2 are great engines,but i think he was reffering to the gm v6....

new,new ride! '99 svt black/mnb '95 mustang gt sold! '98 svt #800 sold!