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Originally posted by tour96se:
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I hear you, so your saying on a roll the cars are pretty much the same then, right




Yes. I am.




you guys are insane..your not even comparing apples to apples here..your talking about a car with a 23k dollar,2.5l 200hp..to a 29k dollar,3.9l 245hp..of course its not going to beat it in a straight line...your also over looking what the mission on the csvt was...to make a car that did everything well,get off the straight line bs..show me a car in the csvt's class that can handle like it? certainly not the g6 gt,which would be closer to the tours class.....after all thats the tours strong point,not straight line





in 2000 could the Grand am beat a CSVT in a straight line...no.

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Originally posted by DemonSVT:
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My CSVT did feel more nimble, but I'm guessing that it would weigh in within 100lbs of the Mustang's 3,500lbs and within 500lbs of my GTO.



My SVT weighs about 3000lbs. Not exactly a "lightweight" but it's really tossable with the good suspension bits. FWD does suck though.

Also the lighter weight makes the little 3L feel pretty lively.




Don't know what your whp is, but your ET is a good testament as to how lively your CSVT is.


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Originally posted by The EX- Striped SVT:
I hear you, so your saying on a roll the cars are pretty much the same then, right One thing I know about GM car is the "fun govenor" and thats also holding the G6 GTP back in that area. My thing is this, in the 1/4 mile, the G6 GTP w/ 6 speed beats the CSVT by an acre. I don't know where those stats came from, but my C&D says 14.4 @97 mph for the G6 GTP w/6spd. Also, I can't believe the Malibu weighs 3800 Imagine if that car was on diet, say about 400lbs.


Now as far as the GTO, we arent' comparing the GTO and CSVT again are we Given both cars, I'd take the GTO 100 out of 100 times and twice on Sunday. 400 hp, FOUR HUNDRED foot pounds of torque, 6 spd and RWD, did I miss something....oh yeah, mods, lots of them!




Yeah, it's neat. I've seen GTO owners w/ less mods than me [CAI and DRs] run 12.6s and 12.7s - and break into the 11s w/o forced induction or nitrous, w/ just heads, cam, full exhaust and tune.

The best part, I paid less than 4k more for my GTO [$28,3xx vs $24,4xx], 6 years after I bought my CSVT.


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Originally posted by DemonSVT:
Too bad it doesn't come in sedan form or it would be a worthwhile car.




It does GM-USA is just to f'en stupid to bring it over!





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Roger...of course the perf world is leavin the CSVT behind. The CSVT died 5 years ago!



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Wow, that sedan is sex. I'd buy it.

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I think im gonna go on the Topaz owners forum and tell them that the G6 GTP is faster than there topaz's

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Originally posted by Stazi:
Originally posted by DemonSVT:
Too bad it doesn't come in sedan form or it would be a worthwhile car.




It does GM-USA is just to f'en stupid to bring it over!



I know it does "outside the states." There are many sweet sedans OUTSIDE the states.

The typical society of sheep here just does not get the sport sedan and wagon market at all. It's a damn shame and a painful burden for the few enlightened individuals hindered by it.


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Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoShoĆ¢ā??Ā¢:
Roger...of course the perf world is leavin the CSVT behind. The CSVT died 5 years ago!






What I mean is this, back in the late 90's, what could match the CSVT for around the price, not much, but with all the advancements, ALOT of cars have gone well ahead, thats all. Think about it, look at whats out there now in the SCC market, it wasn't like that 5 years ago, too bad


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show me a car in the csvt's class that can handle like it?




SRT-4 and in addition to handling,==================LSD, turbo, Viper seats, front mount intercooler, mods from the factory w/ warrenty, 17" wheels, GREAT brakes and lets not forget the clincher, its a little over $20K, cheaper than the CSVT was 5 years ago!


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