Originally posted by Davo:
Originally posted by Kokopellian:
There's no WANT in the black contractors getting jobs. It's called spreading the wealth equally and it's been proven that minorities do not get their fair share of dollars avaailable in those instances. So there is no difference from my example.


A few people complained about how the evil Christians are always throwing their weight around and trying to alter corporate policy. I made the point that no one complains or calls black people evil when Jesse Jackson and his peeps threaten boycotts as a means for changing corporate policy. Who knows what that has to do with discrimination at Denny's. My point is that if it's okay for black people to exercise their power in numbers, why isn't it okay for Christians to do the same? It isn't, which is the double standard I was referring to.

Originally posted by Kokopellian:
Also, I didn't say they refused to sell cars to gay people. I said SERVE the gay community. You can discriminate by refusing to serve a certain segment in many different ways. For instance, when those agents went into Denny's they were refused service. Sure they weren't called the "N" word, but the intent was there.


So by not marketing specifically to gays, they aren't serving them? Great thinking there. Perhaps it's this logic, that gays think they need to be specially catered to, that is suppressing their advancement within this culture/society.



Although I don't always agree with Jesse his consortium stands up for injustices towards race not a "belief" or the ideology that religion is. Every human has the right to practice their own religion and entitlement to civil rights. That's inherent. Forcing religious beliefs on homosexuals just because the Christian belief system doesn't support their lifestyle doesn't compare to a group fighting for injustices. The problem lies in the fact that this particular Christian group believes that their belief system is the righteous one and therefore forces it onto others. That is wrong any way you slice it.

And yes, by not marketing to a group that spends $$$ on a company's products is not serving them. It doesn't need to be "great thinking" as you put it. That is fact. And no, homosexuals don't need to be specifically catered to, but they need/want to be accepted. That's what they struggle for. Acceptance and their own human rights. Their suppression and lack of advancement in culture/society is not brought on by their own actions they're just living, trying to survive. It's driven by the fears of those in power. The power such as demonstrated by the group that had ads pulled from their magazines. Do you see homosexual groups doing the same towards Christian publications? Homosexuals are here to stay and as soon as the conservative Christians realize that we'll all get along better.

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