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Since when are airports and military bases "big business?"
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The contracts are awarded to big business, thier employees can be illegals.
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Originally posted by Corbett:
Since when are airports and military bases "big business?"
The military bases and airports contract work out these corporations that hire illegal immigrants.
Now I hate America? That is a new one to me.
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Originally posted by Antonio Wright:
Originally posted by Corbett:
Since when are airports and military bases "big business?"
The military bases and airports contract work out these corporations that hire illegal immigrants.
So then you are saying that George W Bush is in cahoots with American Airlines, Jet Blue, Delta, Northwest and others and the United States Military to allow illegal immigrants in this country for the sole purpose of cheap labor?
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Originally posted by Antonio Wright:
Originally posted by Corbett:
Since when are airports and military bases "big business?"
The military bases and airports contract work out these corporations that hire illegal immigrants.
Who would ever think that companies like Marriott and Aramark would be considered big business? 
On a more serious note IMO it's about setting up an atmosphere of plausible deniability. Good forged documents are easy to come by. When an employer verifies an employees info the only thing that gets verified is the SS number and the name and that's all that's required by law. Proving that a company knowingly hired illegals is next to impossible. The verification process is weak and flawed.
As for the "temporary workers permit" that Bush wants...who's going to track that? Don't we have something similar right now in the form of work visas? What's going to happen, the permits will expire and the companies will tell the worker to go home and they will? Will the government send agents(travel agents  ) to escort them out of the country? Or is it more likely they'll remain in this country and work illegally with no real change to the system other than the fact that we've generated a piece of paper? Government feels good because they have paper on them. Employer feels good because as long as the Goverment has paper on these people their hands are clean. Ooh no exit statagy again! 
The permits are only duct tape, it's not going to fix anything!
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Originally posted by RT and his SE:
Who would ever think that companies like Marriott and Aramark would be considered big business?
I don't think anyone's denying that illegal immigrants come here and work. The chances that they end up working for a large American company are pretty good. 
What isn't accepted is that 'big business' is controlling American immigration policy, as has been claimed in this thread. I know that fits well in your fantasy, but Rusty I'm pretty sure you don't actually believe that.
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What's the motivation to have illegals here then Dave? Is it the voice of Mom and Pop operations screaming for cheap labor that guides Bush down this path? The immigrants can still be cheap labor and legal right? So what the motivation? Who has enough money or power to turn Bush's head on this one because this is not about his concern for the downtrodden.
Educate me on this one because I don't see John Q Public's interests being served here.
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Given the racial dynamics of the issue, it has been in GWB's best interests to kind of hope illegal immigration goes away, or remains less salient a problem until he is out of office. It's very difficult for Bush to be hard on Mexican immigrants without also being as hard on the Canadian border, even though everyone knows the big problem is Mexico. He has seen more and more latino votes going towards the Republicans, and doesn't want to see that drop. He is afraid being a hawk on illegal immigration is going to drain that support.
I'm not going to deny that many business enjoy illegal labor. But again, to think 'big business' is buying this issue is quite humorous.
You don't see John Q. Public's interests being served in decreasing illegal immigration? Are you serious?
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Read my earlier post. His solution is a piece of paper and nothing more. And what's humorous is that you don't see that big business would profit most by maintaining the status quo and that these "papered" people would still be a drain on services the same as they are now.
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Originally posted by Antonio Wright:
Jeb, are you being serious? All the documents you listed are easily faked. Need I pull up articles on how working illegal aliens were arrested at airports and military bases?
Have you ever seen these documents? My wife has she hires a hundred of construction laborers a year, mostly of hispanic heritage and very little workable english. I'd say at least half come in with obviously fake paper work and she turns them away. She hires by the rules, cause that is what she is told to do.
How can you tell? They don't have all the required paperwork, maybe two of the three. The cards are blatently fake cards. They are hired under one name and then called by other workers by another, not a nick names, a completely different names.
You get a hispanic person in her position and between family, friends, and family and friends of friends, they get hired. She works with three other hispanic girls in her positions on different contracts. They show up every day and they work hard. They just want an honest living. Not to mention most companies, have a don't fire policy because once hired they've broken the law so they might as well get the good worker for their troubles.
Back to my point, it's not as easy as you think to produce good fakes, but when you pay someone to hire them pennies, what do you expect.
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