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Originally posted by cjbaldw:
Originally posted by sigma:
There's a whole lot more proven reliability with turbo-4s than there are V6s.
I agree with all of your other points except for this one. Some of the most reliable highest HP FI'd vehicles to date have been turbo'd V6's. The V configuration lends itself much better to overall engine stability and is a much more balanced design to boot. The Supra's FI'd V6 is legendary for the amount of power it produces reliably as but one example. They aren't as widely used because they are much more expensive to produce therefore we only see turbo'd V6's in relatively expensive vehicles, but power-wise they are hard to beat. Not saying that I4's don't lend themselves well to FI, they do, and they are less expensive to produce, but IMHO not more reliable per se. There are daily driven 800+rwhp Supras (even 1000+rwhp) and daily driven built 600+rwhp 300/350Z's out there in spades compared to daily driven I4's that you'll find at those power levels.
The supra and slyline are the big power monsters when it comes to turbos and they are straight 6's not V6's. The only turbo V6 I know of were the Grand Nationals. Straight line engines are better for turbo'ing if im not mistaken. Thats why their are so many T4,T5 and the few T6's.
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Originally posted by cjbaldw:
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- The AWD system sends 100% of the power to the front wheels until it detects slip, and then can transfer a certain percentage to the rear, and is 100% compuer controlled. It's more like "FWD plus"
People don't seem to care that the Mitsubishi EVO does the exact same thing. No one calls Mitsu's system "FWD Plus" as the EVO stomps the crap out of evirtually everything on the road.
Incorrect. The EVO uses a full-time AWD system with an active center differential, front helical torque-sensing limited slip differential and rear 1.5 limited-slip differential. You can't even compare the two systems.
I know the mechanics of the systems aren't the same, but the operation is virtually identical. I said they do the same thing, not that they are the same system.
The ACD on the EVO (unlike the STi) is incapable of sending more power to the rear than the front, therefore you can never get a rear bias ratio greater than 50/50 with the EVO. The system can send more power to the front than the rear though, and even stop sending power to the rear altogether, and is constantly adjusting some ratio in between.
Basically, the EVO operates between 50/50 and 100/0 and the MS6 operates between 100/0 and 50/50.
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Supra is a I-6  The I-6 is THE most balanced engine configuraion, bar none (when a coriolis effect calculation is done)
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I would still much rather have seen a normally aspirated V6, FWD, and tastefully aggressive styling... much like the SVT Contour. If they wanted something else in other world markets, they're welcome to whatever. Or, make it a V6 all over the world to make it something distinctive, special, and upscale.
It's just frustrating that nobody will make anything the way I want it.
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Originally posted by XKontour98:
The only turbo V6 I know of were the Grand Nationals.
You can't forget the Typhoon/Syclone engine. Big displacement V6 + turbo = 
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Originally posted by Zoom Zoom Diva:
I would still much rather have seen a normally aspirated V6, FWD, and tastefully aggressive styling... much like the SVT Contour. If they wanted something else in other world markets, they're welcome to whatever. Or, make it a V6 all over the world to make it something distinctive, special, and upscale.
It's just frustrating that nobody will make anything the way I want it.
Im sure we would all like that, were comparing cars that are actually out tho, i could ask for a Supercharged 3.5L Fusion tommorow but it dosen mean its gonna happen. Just my .02 dont say "i want this i want this" look at the comparison bewteen the CSVT and the MS6
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While I can see that the Mazdaspeed6 is going into the same market niche as the SVT Contour, I believe they are two very different automobiles.
If you take a Contour SE Sport and compare it to an SVT Contour, and take a Mazda6s with the Sport package and make the same analogy, you will end up with a very different car than the Mazdaspeed6.
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Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
Originally posted by XKontour98:
The only turbo V6 I know of were the Grand Nationals.
You can't forget the Typhoon/Syclone engine. Big displacement V6 + turbo =
Lets nor forget about the great 3.1L V6 Turbo GM produced. Grand Prix Turbo in '89 - '91
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Originally posted by Fmr12B:
Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
Originally posted by XKontour98:
The only turbo V6 I know of were the Grand Nationals.
You can't forget the Typhoon/Syclone engine. Big displacement V6 + turbo =
Lets nor forget about the great 3.1L V6 Turbo GM produced. Grand Prix Turbo in '89 - '91
Been spending way too much on the W-body forums to know that
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Originally posted by baco99:
Originally posted by Fmr12B:
Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
Originally posted by XKontour98:
The only turbo V6 I know of were the Grand Nationals.
You can't forget the Typhoon/Syclone engine. Big displacement V6 + turbo =
Lets nor forget about the great 3.1L V6 Turbo GM produced. Grand Prix Turbo in '89 - '91
Been spending way too much on the W-body forums to know that
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I thought of each of these vary vehicles after I posted and did nopt get time to edit them in. But none the less I cant think of one turbo V6 thats more reliable than the turbo I-6 setups.
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