threads like this just get torn for simple reasons because people now think it's cool to bash the cars and call them 'ricers' to try to gain some sort of e-respect... newsflash for some like stazi already said, the apr evo is insanely sick, i wouldn't mind that mazda either, it looks meaner than any of our tours... the Z, yes, the rear is nasty, but the rest of car is very nicely done