Wow. I just read your thread in the 3L forum. Those guys are a bunch of jerkwads! How did they not know where Tulsa was? It's common knowledge! Plus it's in your signature! Those dudes need to take a chill pill. I can see why a lot of newbies get turned off by this site. Welcome to CEG by the way. I know none of them told you that. Sorry about the way they acted. You'll find not all of us are like that.