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Originally posted by Rev. Po-Jay:
The real killer is Wheel Hop. Get better bushings (Urethane),POLY ROLL RESISTORS, and an LSD and it goes bye bye.
fixed.
The #1 way to virtually eliminate all wheel hop is sturdy solid roll resistors. Trust me 
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Originally posted by pole120:
Originally posted by Rev. Po-Jay:
The real killer is Wheel Hop. Get better bushings (Urethane),POLY ROLL RESISTORS, and an LSD and it goes bye bye.
fixed.
The #1 way to virtually eliminate all wheel hop is sturdy solid roll resistors. Trust me
I have those and a quaife.
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Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoShoâ�??¢:
Originally posted by pole120:
Originally posted by Rev. Po-Jay:
The real killer is Wheel Hop. Get better bushings (Urethane),POLY ROLL RESISTORS, and an LSD and it goes bye bye.
fixed.
The #1 way to virtually eliminate all wheel hop is sturdy solid roll resistors. Trust me
I have those and a quaife.
I know 
99 SE V6\5spd - 156 HP\157 TQ 15.166-90.84
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99 SVT # 1571 - 175 HP\153 TQ 14.999-91.88
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Originally posted by pole120:
Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoShoâ�??¢:
Originally posted by pole120:
Originally posted by Rev. Po-Jay:
The real killer is Wheel Hop. Get better bushings (Urethane),POLY ROLL RESISTORS, and an LSD and it goes bye bye.
fixed.
The #1 way to virtually eliminate all wheel hop is sturdy solid roll resistors. Trust me
I have those and a quaife.
I know
I knew that you knew. I was just making sure that you knew that I knew that you knew! 
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The extra cyclic loading coming back from the inertia of the S/C spooling up and slowing down, would reek havoc on the tensioners of the cams. Not to mention the extra twist coming from trying to run a S/c on top of the loading from the valvetrain.
It's just not a good idea, when you think about it from an engineering POV.
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definitely true. I don't think I've ever seen it on a DOHC motor. The car I saw used a geared cam and wasn't DOHC.
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Originally posted by warmonger:
Originally posted by TGO:
...I was running a 3.8psi spring in my wastegate and 3 passengers on the way to atlanta and I whipped my buddy's Audi S4 with chip and exhaust. So ummm yeah. 4psi does a LOT for our engines....
Mr. Monger, I will take that bet! Your buddy must have been driving like a 450 lb woman in a leather recliner! I am chipped and push 16PSI. I have beaten so many "fast cars" that is just ain't right. I have yet to track the car, but I assume high 12's or very low 13's and that is not what the car is geared for. Find me on the freeway and take your chances.
BTW- was he tiptronic or 6spd manny?
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Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoShoâ�??¢:
I did that on a board once. I wanted to put a toyota V6 in an MR2...they told me to go to hell and that it has been done before, but that it wasn't a worthy swap considering the HP:$
This was 4 years ago tho. I've learned all too much since then. 
Pete, I think someone did put a V6 into an MR2. It was last years SCC USSC winner. Im pretty sure it was a V6 at least...
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Originally posted by Rev. Po-Jay:
Originally posted by warmonger:
Originally posted by TGO:
...I was running a 3.8psi spring in my wastegate and 3 passengers on the way to atlanta and I whipped my buddy's Audi S4 with chip and exhaust. So ummm yeah. 4psi does a LOT for our engines....
Mr. Monger, I will take that bet! Your buddy must have been driving like a 450 lb woman in a leather recliner! I am chipped and push 16PSI. I have beaten so many "fast cars" that is just ain't right. I have yet to track the car, but I assume high 12's or very low 13's and that is not what the car is geared for. Find me on the freeway and take your chances.
BTW- was he tiptronic or 6spd manny?
Can't wait to see you! Hahaha!
Yeah. We'll bet a beer at the barbecue or something. You'll be buying the whole 6 pack.
I'll be laughing ALL the way over to the barbecue for that matter...
He has the 2001 6spd Audi S4 chipped, so-called 325HP or whatever it is, 16psi, catback exhaust, etc. Like I said, sounds the same as what you are talking about. He was by himself though I'll give it to him that he had a full tank of gas.
There is no way you'll hang if we can get to the top of second gear. I'm going to assume you'll launch better than he did and give you first gear. 
Hahaha. Say hello again to the rear SVT bumper and ground effects. 
I have to admit though, I had the timing ramped the fug up when I had it on the 4 psi setting. I mean really high, tuned to the edge on 93 octane. Very fun for just four psi.
Remember, you have a 2.7L engine with twin KO3 turbo's. Those suckers barely wheeze out enough air to power a 2.0L normally.
They are way at the top of their efficiency range on a 2.7L at 16psi. I looked into the borg warner turbos because my Volvo S40 comes with a single K04 on a 2.5L.
The Audi R4 comes with the twin K04s and that is why it runs pretty good.
Larger single turbos are generally more efficient and I actually get 4psi boost by 2500 rpm with this new piping system. I get 8psi by around 3400.
Man...it's ok. I've warned you!
BTW, you did know that I was trapping 109mph in the quarter with the older pipes at between 7-8psi didn't you? And I have been tuning my own car now....
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Originally posted by NothernMystique:
Originally posted by KnuKonceptz:
Who cares if it can be done. The question is why? The Vortech unit is now reliable (again, dont know anyone with a new model that has failed) or can be made reliable by some one on the board
Or go Turbo and have traction problems... 
I was actually thinking about the powerdyne SC. The "silent drive" with no oil requirements seemed attractive from a reliability and installation perspective. I have to search through CEG to determine if they are good blowers.
BTW-The upgrade kit for vortec is $2016, and you have to send in your blower for redesign of the drive shaft. I think there is a better price if you are the original owner. Any original owners out there who already sold their units??? If I get a massive discount for the upgrade, I'll split some savings with you
Do you have an older SC from Vortech? If so there is a much cheaper upgrade....
http://www.contour.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=turbo&Number=256308&page=&view=&sb=5&o=&fpart=1&vc=1
With the Turbo, you get power sooner as boost build earlier. Which causes a bigger tracion problem then the SC does. The guys with Turbo's are making great dyno numbers, but nothing spectacular at the track. What good is the power if it can be put down. Demon's N/A 3L is very close to a Turbo. I cant recall an SC 1/4 time as most are sidelined. Did Rick ever get out to track?
I sold my Vortech off when I bought my G35c, and fianlly getting back to the 3L project. Maybe I'll find a used SC and get back at it......
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