Originally posted by red99sesport:
Having had Mazdas (before Ford bought them), Toyotas, Fords, Lincolns, Mercurys, one Chrysler, and one Honda growing up, I can tell you this. Our biggest POS Mazda or Toyota was 10x better put together and 10x more reliable than our best Ford car not to mention the Japanese cars were 10x less recalled. We never had one Ford or Mercury that didn't have at least three recalls during the 2 to 3 years we leased it. The Lincoln was only recalled once. How many recalls have we ever had on a Toyota or Mazda? None. How many repairs did the Toyotas or Mazdas need? None. (We did have one Honda that had been wrecked and overheated sometimes) For a while my Dad worked for Ford, and we had to drive Ford cars. As soon as he quit and our leases were up, we went back to our problem free Toyotas and Mazdas. We don't have time to baby our cars and have them in for constant repairs. When I say baby, I don't mean not abuse. I mean I don't think you should have to correct things like the low coolant light on our car, and worry about [censored] waterpumps failing on cars with 100k. Ford can not provide reliability on a consistant basis, and when the A-plan discount was gone, they lost business from me, my parents, my grandparents, aunts, uncles, and anyone else related to us that qualified for the discount.



Sounds like you may be a tool. I listed three friggin pages of just 3 or 4 specific models of Toyota in only two model years. There were Many more. Then you say..."oh, they aren't as bad as fords". Well maybe they aren't. But a recall is a fuggin recall is a fuggin recall! The quality thing...yeah, I agree 100% that Toyota quality is better. I'm not going to be like you and throw on my knee pads about Toyota on a Contour site!
Then you jump in and say all of this other crap. You are obviously biased from other peoples opinions and you can't even list your own examples clearly without drawing on media hype.
It has nothing to do with Ford either. You shouldn't use cars you didn't have the personal experience with. That's hearsay. I suppose I upset you. Sorry, I guess I should tone it back a bit. I'm just disgusted that people don't realize just how many problems ALL manufacturers end up with. Working on Toyotas and Selling Toyotas (which I did) gives you a perspective that the average suck-up doesn't get.
Go ahead and pop off with another witty comment or start splitting hairs again. I'm pretty much done with this thread now. I have nothing else to point out that will change what people think. I'm sure you do have more to say on it and I probably will read it but I'll take it with a grain of salt.
Funny, this is a contour site and the contour has very few recalls for a 'Ford' vehicle if you compare it by any of your previously standards listed previously.


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