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Originally posted by RTStabler51:
YOu do with what you have in the intelligence world. Analyst put things together from multiple sources and come up with their assessments. Hence, intelligence typically is some kind of speculation in one shape or form. Unless you have eyes on, or most importantly, good HUMINT (that's Human Intelligence for the non-Intel types) then you go with what you have.
agreed. but i'm referring to the cases wher the intel clearly shows that conclusions that are being drawn are very far fetched, highly unreliable or completely wrong in some cases.
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Originally posted by BP:
i mean we are a role model and greatest country in the world right? to me it makes abso(f'ing)lutely no sense at all to go to WAR, pre-emptively at that, based on questionable (and false) speculation.
Then perhaps you should talk to the rest of the Senate who also voted for the same war. Oh I forgot. Bush has top secret information that the senate didn't so therefore its all his fault. Give me a break.
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Originally posted by Davo:
Originally posted by BP:
do you think it's ok to go to WAR based on speculation? or only if it's against muslims...
i mean we are a role model and greatest country in the world right? to me it makes abso(f'ing)lutely no sense at all to go to WAR, pre-emptively at that, based on questionable (and false) speculation.
I think whether or not it was speculation is the subject of this debate, so your premise there should not be accepted.
Considering the situation in Iraq over the preceeding 12 years, and our lack of field intel staff through the Clinton years, you can pretty much lump the vast majority of the intel into the speculation column. That is one reason I put so much emphasis on the declarations to the UN.
Must be that jumbly-wumbly thing happening again.
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