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Originally posted by MadMerc97:

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The Cobra is a pretty powerful car, but I'd rather have a GTO. Or a modified Trans Am. Or an older Corvette. But it seriously isn't that bad of a car. I'd take one in a heartbeat, but I wouldn't pay for it. Many more cost-efficient engines on the market for the money. Shoot for the kinda money you'd be spending, I'd go get an old Fox-body coupe, buy a 351C, strengthen the internals, give it more fuel, etc., get a good 6-spd transmission to go with it, and HEAVILY upgrade the suspension. For about the same money(if you're willing to put in the effort) you could have a MUCH faster Mustang. And you could say to people that THAT Mustang is YOURS, not some Hi-po factory tuner that thousands of others in the world have. Of course it would not be anywhere near the Cobra in refinement, but meh. I guess that's a bit much for a beginner tho...

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Originally posted by MadMerc97:

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The Cobra is a pretty powerful car, but I'd rather have a GTO. Or a modified Trans Am. Or an older Corvette. But it seriously isn't that bad of a car. I'd take one in a heartbeat, but I wouldn't pay for it. Many more cost-efficient engines on the market for the money. Shoot for the kinda money you'd be spending, I'd go get an old Fox-body coupe, buy a 351C, strengthen the internals, give it more fuel, etc., get a good 6-spd transmission to go with it, and HEAVILY upgrade the suspension. For about the same money(if you're willing to put in the effort) you could have a MUCH faster Mustang. And you could say to people that THAT Mustang is YOURS, not some Hi-po factory tuner that thousands of others in the world have. Of course it would not be anywhere near the Cobra in refinement, but meh. I guess that's a bit much for a beginner tho...

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Originally posted by MadMerc97:

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First of all, GTOs come factory with 400. Second of all, that can be fixed very easily with the same mods as the cobra. Third, Fox-bodies are lighter. Fourth, Trans Ams are easily modified to 400+horsepower for the budget in mind. I don't know what crack you must be smokin' to think that a 20K Cobra+mod money is cheaper and faster than an 8K WS6 with 12K in mods. WTF? Plus I won't respect the Mustang again until they make some NA power. I know it is nothing more than a different way of accomplishing tuning, but I for one prefer ALL-ENGINE power to just slapping on a blower.

Nice Cobra by the way.

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do you own either car????????have you even driven either car????????if not then stfu with your nonsense....like he said before a cobra with intake and exhaust will easily make 400 or more hp TO THE WHEELS....the '05 gto('04 only has 350 hp btw)makes 400 hp AT THE CRANK......with nothing more than a pulley upgrade the cobra will make well over 400 AT THE WHEELS.....since you want to compare apples to oranges(like your $8k ta with $12k in mods)take your beloved gto which costs more than an '03 cobra and put the difference in the cobra and it will destroy the gto...actually though stock for stock the cobra is equally as fast and costs less....

the guy with the '03 cobra was reffering to modding the cars with the same amount of money(not comparing purchase price which is ridiculous)take a ls1 camaro and an '03 cobra,and give each owner $500 to spend on mods....the cobra will destroy the ls1 every time.....hell the ls1 would probably only be just as fast or maybe even slower with $500 in mods and the cobra left stock....

if you want to really compare by purchase price,i'll buy a $3k mustang,and use the $5k difference in mods and kill the ta,so your point is meaningless.......

and you whine about the cobra being supercharged....big deal......so your saying something like an evo,or sti for example aren't any good either because they rely on a turbo for power

Originally posted by MadMerc97:

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I have a better idea...

Let's take an '01 Cobra and an '01 WS6. Stock, the cobra loses. Conversation over. It isn't fair to compare the '03 Cobra to an earlier year F-Body. This conversation is nothing more than a conflict of opinions. Besides, a Fox-body mustang hasn't been considered 'late-model' for a decade. A 351C isn't difficult to fab-up mounts for. You just have to take the measurements right, and cut the metal right. Look a powerful NA engine is a good thing. I'm not saying FI engines are BAD, just another, viable method of tuning that I prefer to stay away from. That's it. I don't want to argue with you guys, just state a couple viable alternatives to the "'03 Cobra is god" lines you mustang fanboys spout off like scripture. Meh. Have it your way...

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wow your posts just keep getting more and more ridiculous...well then since to you its not fair to compare an '03 to an '01,then let's compare an '04 cobra to an '04 f-body,oh oops i forgot they don't make them anymore then how about an '04 cobra to an '04 gto,then the gto loses.conversation over......

and now since when is a fox body not considered a late model? maybe it is an earlier late model,but they have always been,and still are reffered to as late models...at the car show i was in last month the winner of best late model,was a mineral grey fox body.... oh but i forgot according to you fox bodies haven't been reffered to as late models for a decade...

i also never said it was all that difficult to fab up mounts for a 351c,i said that it would probably be the worst choice as far as cost and extra work...why bother fabbing up mounts,custom headers,and tons more little details to put in an engine that has far less aftermarket parts than a comparable windsor...and a windsor based build would fit right in and have more options to build a cost effective high hp n/a motor...

sure building a n/a motor with high hp #'s is great,but there is only so much you can get out of a n/a motor,and some form of f/i will be necessary...that's why most of the fastest cars in the world are using some form of f/i....also with f/i you get driveability....build you up a high compression n/a motor and tell me how streetable it is,and how good of mileage you get....now take a comparable f/i setup it will be driveable,and still probably pull down 20+ mpg....so again tell me why f/i is so bad...

i also never said the '03 cobra was god...just that its fast stock,and can be easily,and cheaply modded with simple bolt ons to make well over 400 hp to the wheels...by the way ugotbit i would love to see some more pics. of your cobra,i saw your engine pics. in the other thread...my cousin has an '04 that i've had the pleasure of driving a couple of times,and let's just say i didn't want to let go of the wheel...lol...