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Morality (secular or religious) is NOT defined by the state of marriage. No matter how good or evil a person is, they are not introduced into a "state of grace" by marriage. Therefore, marriage in of itself is only as holy or upstanding of an institution as those that partake in it.

Since ALL sin is equal in the eyes of God (well, for most Christian denominations that aren't hinging their beliefs strictly off of a few passages in Proverbs AND in blantant disregard to a fair amount of red ink in the New Testament) and since I assume that you consider homosexuality a choice (therefore a sin when engaged in), how is homosexual marriage any better or worse than pre-nuptual marriages, marriages of convienence (money, status, green-card), etc. or marriage embarked on out of lust instead of love? Or marriages that end in divorce?

An example: Eva Braun's marriage to Adolf Hitler. If you think for ONE moment that God smiled down on that heterosexual marriage and on the other hand is frowning on gay marriages of those that are upstanding citizens AND active Christians, I have a brick I'd like to throw at you...

I just don't think God is up in Heaven with a whistle in his mouth blowing it loudly and giving us a technical foul on the subject. I would like to think he's asking Christians to look at the bigger picture.

Finally, marriage as a Christian ritual was "borrowed" from pagan rituals so how do you get around that? I mean, if gays certainly can't be "cleansed" of their evil through a religious ceremony (or if they pollute it as you seem to allude to), how in the Hell can marriage be anything but a farce to begin with, since I would counter that any pagan rite certainly couldn't be cleansed of it's evil just due to the fact that Moses laid down a few laws and practices surrounding it in the Pentateuch...

Since Christianity (and secular society) frowns on the practice of polygamy, how do you adjust for Solomon having a SLEW of wives? David? Moses?

Since religion and society now abhor this practice, should I lump half of the mentioned male population of the Old Testament in with a group of gay male strippers living in a flat in Chelsea on Manhattan Island? Sin is sin, right?

Yes, marriage as a religious institution is "man and wife" (or wives, depending on the era, particular religion and social status) but since this has OBVIOUSLY changed over the eons, I suspect that it will change once again.

I'm all for keeping marriage as a religious institution and let the various churches fight it out on who should be considered the right of a recognized religious ceremony, but the recent votes stink and smack of ignorance, bigotry and hatred because at it's CORE it's not a religious issue though it's been turned into one. It is one of secular acknowledgement and it's being robbed of people that could quite easily be better human beings and Christians than you or I.

The Pharisees are far from a dead and extinct sect in Christianty, it seems...