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Originally posted by Davo:
The amendments are written as a promotion of heterosexual marriage, not a banning of gay marriage. There is a difference between "marriage should only be between a man and a woman" and "marriage cannot be between two men or two women".
It does not promote heterosexual marriage. It limits marriage to be solely for heterosexuals, which functionally amounts to banning homosexual marriage. It just looks nicer and less discriminatory. I'm not fooled.
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But wouldn't the people on the other side of the debate see the legalization of gay marriage as forcing immorality upon them? I don't necessarily believe that, I'm just trying to put the other side into perspective.
I can see people thinking that, but there is absolutely no factual basis to derive that thought. Nobody is requiring anybody to make or change any moral stand. They can still hold the exact same morals and live them in the exact same way whether homosexual marriage is legal or not.
I don't expect other people to hold and live according to the same morals I do. However, I do expect the same courtesy from others.
interesting point of view: http://www.savetexasmarriage.com/
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Originally posted by Davo:
Originally posted by bishop375:
We have a right to life, hence murder is illegal.
Are you pro-abortion?
Originally posted by Davo:
But wouldn't the people on the other side of the debate see the legalization of gay marriage as forcing immorality upon them? I don't necessarily believe that, I'm just trying to put the other side into perspective.
Lets try a little of your own logic here. Abortion is legal in this country but you are still allowed to believe it's wrong and not participate because you have a choice. (The use of the word "choice" is not to be construed as a reason, segway or excuse to turn this into an abortion debate.)
As far as it being a law that promotes hetero marrage...well you can plant that in the garden and have a wonderful crop of BS blossoms next year cause that's about all that's good for! 
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Originally posted by RT and his SE:
well you can plant that in the garden and have a wonderful crop of BS blossoms next year cause that's about all that's good for!
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Sometimes you can mess up a word so bad that spell check doens't know what the hell you're talking about.
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I was looking at my wife last night while I was holding Liberty and just couldn't help but think that my marriage is stronger because of this amendment. My, thus far perfect, marriage would have been headed right down the crapper if it hadn't been voted in. But, alas, my marriage is strong because of our countty' various local governments and I can sleep better at night knowing the homosexual community will be inspired to make better choices in who they love in the future. Thank the maker. I was getting a little worried that some lesbians would break into my home and force my wife into a life of involuntarily serv-a-tubes.
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Originally posted by Davo:
Originally posted by bishop375:
We have a right to life, hence murder is illegal.
Are you pro-abortion?
No, I'm not pro-abortion.
I'm pro-CHOICE.
But that is another debate for a different time.
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Originally posted by Davo:
But wouldn't the people on the other side of the debate see the legalization of gay marriage as forcing immorality upon them? I don't necessarily believe that, I'm just trying to put the other side into perspective.
If they were passing legislation that stated ONLY gay marriage was legal (recognized, w/e), that would be forcing their morality upon you.
Quit crying because people you don't like are fighting for the same rights as you.
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Originally posted by Davo:
The amendments are written as a promotion of heterosexual marriage, not a banning of gay marriage. There is a difference between "marriage should only be between a man and a woman" and "marriage cannot be between two men or two women".
I'm sure everyone in Texas is glad that an exclusionary definition of marriage was placed on the books simply out of kindness to the heterosexual couples. The fact that it bans gay marriage is simply a coincidence
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Originally posted by bishop375:
No, I'm not pro-abortion.
I'm pro-CHOICE.
But that is another debate for a different time.
...which means you're pro-abortion. But since you're able to approach the same debate with a different mindset, I'll assume you finally understand the points I've been trying to make throughout this thread.
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Originally posted by bishop375:
If they were passing legislation that stated ONLY gay marriage was legal (recognized, w/e), that would be forcing their morality upon you.
No. Some consider the acceptance of gay marriage within our society to be forcing immorality upon them. Don't think one's conception of morality is entirely independent of society.
Originally posted by bishop375:
Quit crying because people you don't like are fighting for the same rights as you.
I don't know who these people I don't like that you're referring to. But I'm asumming at some point I'm going to need to pull a Beowulf and complain about being labeled as something. 
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Originally posted by RT and his SE:
As far as it being a law that promotes hetero marrage...well you can plant that in the garden and have a wonderful crop of BS blossoms next year cause that's about all that's good for!
Originally posted by Viss1:
I'm sure everyone in Texas is glad that an exclusionary definition of marriage was placed on the books simply out of kindness to the heterosexual couples. The fact that it bans gay marriage is simply a coincidence
Please note I said the amendments were written as such, not that I actually believe that's their intent. If you want to deny that they're written as a promotion of heterosexual marriage, then I suggest you go back and read them. If you still don't think so, you may have to learn how to read again.
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