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Let's hear it for legislating discrimination! By preventing two dudes from marrying each other, all gays will vanish from the face of the Earth, and divorce among heterosexual couples will disappear!
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Originally posted by Viss1:
Let's hear it for legislating discrimination! By preventing two dudes from marrying each other, all gays will vanish from the face of the Earth, and divorce among heterosexual couples will disappear!
I don't see how its legislating discrimination? I agree, that it won't do much for getting rid of gays or helping the hetro-divorce rate, but its good to see the PEOPLE standing for what they believe in. Be it right or wrong.
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Originally posted by Beowulf:
America's inabilty to let people chose for themselves strikes again.
You do know that this was voted on, right?
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Originally posted by Desea vivo el Todras:
Originally posted by Viss1:
Let's hear it for legislating discrimination! By preventing two dudes from marrying each other, all gays will vanish from the face of the Earth, and divorce among heterosexual couples will disappear!
I don't see how its legislating discrimination? I agree, that it won't do much for getting rid of gays or helping the hetro-divorce rate, but its good to see the PEOPLE standing for what they believe in. Be it right or wrong.
Discrimination is defined as
Originally posted by dictionary.com:
Treatment or consideration based on class or category rather than individual merit
Because Texas has now amended their state contsitution to inform a specific minority that they do not have the same rights as other people.
While you're at it, why not say that only people of the same race can marry?
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Originally posted by bishop375:
Originally posted by Desea vivo el Todras:
Originally posted by Viss1:
Let's hear it for legislating discrimination! By preventing two dudes from marrying each other, all gays will vanish from the face of the Earth, and divorce among heterosexual couples will disappear!
I don't see how its legislating discrimination? I agree, that it won't do much for getting rid of gays or helping the hetro-divorce rate, but its good to see the PEOPLE standing for what they believe in. Be it right or wrong.
Discrimination is defined as
Originally posted by dictionary.com:
Treatment or consideration based on class or category rather than individual merit
Because Texas has now amended their state contsitution to inform a specific minority that they do not have the same rights as other people.
While you're at it, why not say that only people of the same race can marry?
Everything in today's society is 'discrimination', and that is not what I am condoning. Its obvious by the voter turn out and voting record in this issue that the people of Texas do not want this to be going on within their state. Period. This just goes to show that people still have power within their governments.
And since you obviously didn't see my last statement I'll bold it this time be it right or wrong.
Its good to see the citizen still has powers in his government. Period.
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You stated that you don't see how it's discrimination.
I pointed out how it is.
Regardless of a majority vote, it is STILL discrimination.
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Originally posted by Desea vivo el Todras:
Originally posted by bishop375:
Discrimination is defined as
Originally posted by dictionary.com:
Treatment or consideration based on class or category rather than individual merit
Because Texas has now amended their state contsitution to inform a specific minority that they do not have the same rights as other people.
While you're at it, why not say that only people of the same race can marry?
Everything in today's society is 'discrimination', and that is not what I am condoning. Its obvious by the voter turn out and voting record in this issue that the people of Texas do not want this to be going on within their state. Period. This just goes to show that people still have power within their governments.
And since you obviously didn't see my last statement I'll bold it this time be it right or wrong.
Its good to see the citizen still has powers in his government. Period.
The points are both valid. Like it or not, the system is based on majority rule. What one views as descrimination, another will view as protecting their deeply held convictions. When these two conflict, majority rules.
Sometimes the things get cloudy. For example, abortion. Woman�s right to choose is now constitutional. I, as a Catholic, don't agree, but as an American I cannot & will not impose my personal views on others. Fine, right? No.
The reason for the objection is that my tax dollars are being collected to fund the very things that my faith most abhors. The poorest among us cannot pay for the procedure themselves, therefore my tax dollars are put to use in 'clinics'. To a person of profound faith, the thought of being responsible for paying for such things is devastating.
A possible solution to this dilema is segregation. Like minded people should be able to get together & form their own community to share their values & views with their children & neighbors. Unfortunately, the current trend toward secularism & 'enlightened' organizations like the ACLU will oppose such things on priciple, without regard to whether or not anybody in such a community is being denied any basic rights or freedoms. Which brings us back to the same old debate of freedom of choice. When a such a community is forced to accept secularist doctrine, is their right to choose & their freedom of religion being infringed by those sworn to protect such freedoms?
We may yet see this played out in Texas...
BTW, just provoking debate.
Must be that jumbly-wumbly thing happening again.
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I have a new respect for Texas. Those bizatches have their heads on straight. Its nice to see someone stick up for moral standards in a society in which they are quickly becoming non-existant!
woot for TX!
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Originally posted by TourDeForce:
A possible solution to this dilema is segregation. Like minded people should be able to get together & form their own community to share their values & views with their children & neighbors. Unfortunately, the current trend toward secularism & 'enlightened' organizations like the ACLU will oppose such things on priciple, without regard to whether or not anybody in such a community is being denied any basic rights or freedoms. Which brings us back to the same old debate of freedom of choice. When a such a community is forced to accept secularist doctrine, is their right to choose & their freedom of religion being infringed by those sworn to protect such freedoms?
Majority rule works both ways. If you don't like tax money funding poor womens' abortions, don't try to start your own pseudo-society - vote for leaders who oppose it. IMO being an American doesn't mean dropping out of society and starting a cult if you don't like the way the majority of your countrymen vote.
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Originally posted by bishop375:
Discrimination is defined as
Originally posted by dictionary.com:
Treatment or consideration based on class or category rather than individual merit
Because Texas has now amended their state contsitution to inform a specific minority that they do not have the same rights as other people.
Would you then agree that Medicare and welfare are discriminatory programs? I can't get Medicare unless I'm old and I can't get welfare unless I'm a poor single mother. Seems like they're treating and considering based on categories rather than merit in these cases. Do you support that?
If two twelve year-olds from Texas want to marry, can they? If you don't let them marry, isn't that discrimination, since you're saying they can only marry if they're of age?
It's easy to pull the 'discrimination/all of our human rights are evaporating' card, but when you put it into perspective these sorts of restrictions are hardly foreign to America.
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