In that case Ray, look to buying some "frangible" ammo or Hydrashock ammo....both have worked very well in my friends "carry" .380 (thankfully, he hasn't had the occasion to use it on a "live subject"). Sounds like a good deal...remember....practice, practice, practice


A1C Hodges, Christopher Active Duty USAF Sheppard AFB Texas;Westover ARB Chicopee, MA NECEG "Troll" formerly owned 2000 SVT Contour, with all kinds of goodies;)