Originally posted by PlatoSVT:
Originally posted by Pale Horse:
Does Anyone Here Understand What Is Going On Here???




God knows I don't! Instead Of Answering His Questions You Just Spit Back With Accusations And More Questions. Seems Kind Of Fishy To Me, But Maybe That's Just The Way You Do Business.


Originally posted by Buddy Palumbo:


I have yet to see a promo that made me want to spend my hard earned money to buy a ticket , and I LOVE a good action movie .



I think I understand you partially here. The trailers really haven't shown much "action" and I don't think it really is going to be chock full of it. I think this movie is more narrative of his time in Desert Storm, and as I recall from the book, it was mostly griping about sitting around waiting for the WMD's and "Mother of all Wars". But I also think that coming from the director of American Beauty, it's going to be worth seeing, if not for the action, then to at least hear this Marines story, despite that it's been "Hollywized".

Originally posted by Ice992:

Im a Marine...





C'mon Ice! You earned the right to be a Marine with a capital M.

Originally posted by Ice992:



On topic- Jarhead- the book, was hilarious to read as an ENLISTED Marine, Officers, unless prior enlisted, will never understand... Its well known by the enlisted, its two entirely different worlds. It was hilarious b/c I remember the bootcamp chapter in the book, and I remember it really being that way, not to mention the accounts of their free time and what happened while overseas, was all pretty congruent with how enlisted marines really act while under the pressures of war... All in all, I really hope this movie is true to the book...



It's pretty well known among any Marine, officer or enlisted. The difference I've seen is that most officers find the book slightly offensive, but still worth reading. Why do you say that officer's will "never" understand? Are they not out there with you everyday? Are they making less of a sacrifice to be out there because they've got a degree and done a minimum 10 weeks OCS, 6 months TBS, and whatever MOS training had to be done? I just don't understand why there is such a 'rivalry' between officers and enlisted. In my mind, and hopefully this is what my actions show when I am assigned my squadron, an officer is there for the enlisted. He serves them just as much as they serve him and respect/loyalty should go both ways. Of course, I'm not yet in the Corps, but I'd like to think that my ideals will stand when that happens. I'm not trying to give you a "Your wrong, I'm right" speech by any means, just trying to get a better picture of why and how things are while in duty. I have the utmost respect for you and any enlisted military, Marine or not, so understand that I'm not trying to attack you, just get a more clear picture of the situation.


Oh and I couldn't get worked covered last night, so I'll be seeing it later today.




You want to be a good Marine Officer? When you take over a platoon, company, division whatever you end up the OIC of, best way to start off, is do nothing... sit back, take 2-4 weeks, and honestly learn your marines, get to know them as PEOPLE, not as officer to enlisted, enlisted have a grudge against officers due to the holier than thou complex most have. In my MOS, I dont have to worry about it as much, bc without me, the officer doesnt get to fly his jet that day... I control all the support equipment/test equipment for the squadron... and in an airwing environment, the officers quickly learn just how important the enlisted who maintain his multimillion dollar toy...

Your values sound good... but the corps changes people... and TBS will change you, you may never see it but others will... Every enlisted has had the OIC whom was their best friend and they'd bend over backwards to put out and get things done for their OIC in return... then everyone has had the a hole whom nobody liked and nobody would do a thing extra to help their oic out... beleive me, you want to be the first of the two, this is why the enlisted to officer are the best officers 8 out of 10... B/C they have experianced both sides of this, and tend to emulate the better of the two... Just food for thought...

-Dan If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried.