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Originally posted by SteedaSVT:
Kane
Your post needs More Stripes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I know! I got kinda screwed out of BTZ (well, not really, but)... so I get another around springtime.
I'm in a small unit, but we had a large number of people go up for BTZ when I did... so instead of a few people going up, I went against 15 or so people. Then they usually choose 1 person that's deployed, 1 that's at home station...
So then 4 of the nominees were deployed with me... so of us, they took the one with the most community service, which was a utilities guy that had 4 more months than I did since their tech school is 4 months shorter than mine.
But I'm not saying he didn't deserve it, even though he wasn't the greatest at his job, he obviously had the most desire to help people since he did a ton of community service... which is what the BTZ thing is all about.
Now I probly just confuzed a bunch of people... Muhaha!
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Originally posted by RTStabler51:
The F-22 isn't operatonal yet, so I don't consider that one in the discussion :-P.
Talk to some of the test pilots on that program, oh, sorry most of them were killed flight testing the POS. It had a horrible safety record before it ever saw service. Too many single point failures that result in loss of control. My friend did the sounds for the flight sim for it www.simphonics.com and it's nickname is the "twin-rotor marine mauler". I'll fly about anything and I wouldn't touch that thing. 
Jim
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Originally posted by jthursby:
Originally posted by RTStabler51:
The F-22 isn't operatonal yet, so I don't consider that one in the discussion :-P.
Talk to some of the test pilots on that program, oh, sorry most of them were killed flight testing the POS.
it's nickname is the "twin-rotor marine mauler". I'll fly about anything and I wouldn't touch that thing.
Do you not read, or are you just so much of a wannabe that you can't even tell a Raptor from an Osprey? And oooh, you have a friend who worked on a flight sim, so that makes you more in the know than me, who's talked to the program director while standing inside one of the airframes? Nice try.
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Originally posted by Jeb Hoge:
Originally posted by jthursby:
Originally posted by RTStabler51:
The F-22 isn't operatonal yet, so I don't consider that one in the discussion :-P.
Talk to some of the test pilots on that program, oh, sorry most of them were killed flight testing the POS.
it's nickname is the "twin-rotor marine mauler". I'll fly about anything and I wouldn't touch that thing.
Do you not read, or are you just so much of a wannabe that you can't even tell a Raptor from an Osprey? And oooh, you have a friend who worked on a flight sim, so that makes you more in the know than me, who's talked to the program director while standing inside one of the airframes? Nice try.
Wasn't trying anything. It's a POS but the Marines love it because it's fast. It will kill Marines fast too. I've got logged (read signed in my logbook)C5A Galaxy sim time. What's that mean about my knowledge of a C5A? Jack shizit. Wannabe that azzhole.
Jim
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Originally posted by jthursby:
Originally posted by Jeb Hoge:
Originally posted by jthursby:
Originally posted by RTStabler51:
The F-22 isn't operatonal yet, so I don't consider that one in the discussion :-P.
Talk to some of the test pilots on that program, oh, sorry most of them were killed flight testing the POS.
it's nickname is the "twin-rotor marine mauler". I'll fly about anything and I wouldn't touch that thing.
Do you not read, or are you just so much of a wannabe that you can't even tell a Raptor from an Osprey? And oooh, you have a friend who worked on a flight sim, so that makes you more in the know than me, who's talked to the program director while standing inside one of the airframes? Nice try.
Wasn't trying anything. It's a POS but the Marines love it because it's fast. It will kill Marines fast too. I've got logged (read signed in my logbook)C5A Galaxy sim time. What's that mean about my knowledge of a C5A? Jack shizit. Wannabe that azzhole.
Jim
Before you add your worthless .02, read my posts more carefully in discussion the OV-22....
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Originally posted by RTStabler51:
Originally posted by jthursby:
Originally posted by Jeb Hoge:
Originally posted by jthursby:
Originally posted by RTStabler51:
The F-22 isn't operatonal yet, so I don't consider that one in the discussion :-P.
Talk to some of the test pilots on that program, oh, sorry most of them were killed flight testing the POS.
it's nickname is the "twin-rotor marine mauler". I'll fly about anything and I wouldn't touch that thing.
Do you not read, or are you just so much of a wannabe that you can't even tell a Raptor from an Osprey? And oooh, you have a friend who worked on a flight sim, so that makes you more in the know than me, who's talked to the program director while standing inside one of the airframes? Nice try.
Wasn't trying anything. It's a POS but the Marines love it because it's fast. It will kill Marines fast too. I've got logged (read signed in my logbook)C5A Galaxy sim time. What's that mean about my knowledge of a C5A? Jack shizit. Wannabe that azzhole.
Jim
Before you add your worthless .02, read my posts more carefully in discussion the OV-22....
Yep, despite the fact that I think jthursby is very confused on the difference between a jet and tilt rotor, let's still consider the very obvious fact that the Marines have put it into full production. I'm sure they did so without care or caution of what that could mean for the grunts riding it. 
Obviously there are going to be alot of reservations about this airplane, as I said earlier, it's an entirely new type of aircraft, and MUCH testing (testing=failures, no way around it) has had to go into developing it. But due to the simple nature of TESTING, the plane has become a stout pig in the skies, or the Marines wouldn't be trusting their own in it. C'mon at least try and have some faith in the decisions of the higher-ups, even if this plane had some rocky starts, which is inevitable in this situation.
EDIT: Some good info from a website mostly composed of the guys that actually do the flying out there, might want to give it a search or two and read up. If these guys (the pilots OF the Osprey) are pretty confident in the machine, I'll trust it. AirWarriors
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Originally posted by jthursby:
Originally posted by Jeb Hoge:
Originally posted by jthursby:
Originally posted by RTStabler51:
The F-22 isn't operatonal yet, so I don't consider that one in the discussion :-P.
Talk to some of the test pilots on that program, oh, sorry most of them were killed flight testing the POS.
it's nickname is the "twin-rotor marine mauler". I'll fly about anything and I wouldn't touch that thing.
Do you not read, or are you just so much of a wannabe that you can't even tell a Raptor from an Osprey? And oooh, you have a friend who worked on a flight sim, so that makes you more in the know than me, who's talked to the program director while standing inside one of the airframes? Nice try.
Wasn't trying anything. It's a POS but the Marines love it because it's fast. It will kill Marines fast too. I've got logged (read signed in my logbook)C5A Galaxy sim time. What's that mean about my knowledge of a C5A? Jack shizit. Wannabe that azzhole.
Jim
Yippie The C5 is soooo COOL!!!!!
Fly some of the Jersey Sims!!!! Don't know what im talking about Hmmm Sucks to be you!
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Originally posted by PlatoSVT:
Obviously there are going to be alot of reservations about this airplane, as I said earlier, it's an entirely new type of aircraft, and MUCH testing (testing=failures, no way around it) has had to go into developing it. But due to the simple nature of TESTING, the plane has become a stout pig in the skies, or the Marines wouldn't be trusting their own in it. C'mon at least try and have some faith in the decisions of the higher-ups, even if this plane had some rocky starts, which is inevitable in this situation.
The biggest stink around the Osprey isn't even in the airframe, but in the program management. Some no-load supervisors who didn't want to look bad when the most advanced VTOL aircraft design in decades started to fall behind in development milestones were making stuff up instead of owning up to problems that *were fixable* with the appropriate attention. That's what killed Marines...the desire not to look bad on the books.
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so umm... what does everyone think about that Jarhead movie? 
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