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Originally posted by PlatoSVT:
Originally posted by RTStabler51:
Don't get me wrong, it can fly. Its the transitional period that would scare me and where it seems to have its biggest issues.
But if you'll recall, they were just as afraid to put the Harrier into action back in the 70's. Things turned out(kinda) once it saw duty, but people were VERY wary of trusting it's capabilities. More so with the Osprey now, because it will be carrying so much cargo/grunts.
the Harrier gets grounded all the time for issues. Another plane, although good theory, I don't much care for...
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Can't disagree with you there. From what I hear, mechanical gremlins all over that plane no matter how hard you fight it.
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Originally posted by PlatoSVT:
But if you'll recall, they were just as afraid to put the Harrier into action back in the 70's. Things turned out(kinda) once it saw duty, but people were VERY wary of trusting it's capabilities.
Disclaimer: I know enough about the Harrier to fill a thimble, and 100% of that from 'Modern Marvels' or some such program Isn't the number of non-combat deaths per flight hours (or whatever metric they use) some insanely high figure?
Still LMAO at the chair force comment!
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Originally posted by bigMoneyRacing:
Still LMAO at the chair force comment!
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The Chair force is extremly true for alot of Higher NCO's...
When i fist got there NCO's would bring in like 3 dozen dognuts for like 11 people and then wondered why everyone made fun of the AF for being out of shape.....
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Originally posted by bigMoneyRacing:
Disclaimer: I know enough about the Harrier to fill a thimble, and 100% of that from 'Modern Marvels' or some such program Isn't the number of non-combat deaths per flight hours (or whatever metric they use) some insanely high figure?
Yeah, it's high. I don't know the percentages but vertical landing and hovers are an exceedingly tricky thing to deal with, especially in a single-engine airframe. If you're hovering and you lose thrust for ANY reason, you might as well punch out. I imagine the later (latest) blocks of production aircraft aren't AS bad, but since a hover is basically the jet balancing itself on a column of superheated gas, any force that causes it to "slip" off means that it'll be moving both sideways and down while the pilot tries to regain that balance. I've got a video clip of a Harrier doing an airshow hover over water and it looks like either the engine loses power or the pilot just slips it and next thing you know...SPLASH.
I really, really hope that the F-35 STOVL variant has some really advanced flight controls to make life easier for its Marines.
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I always liked the warthog, a good, tough machine, did they retire it?
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Originally posted by loggerbomb:
I always liked the warthog, a good, tough machine, did they retire it?
Nah, the USAF has tried a couple of times but they tend to end up modernizing it instead. It's a good jet, just takes forever to get around, compared to other combat jets.
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