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Originally posted by Davo:
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IMO and from what i have seen with people i know who have been so sheltered, when they get to college or whatever, its overwhelming and most tend to make alot of bad decisions.
Eh, that's a convenient myth. And like Ryan said, a lot of different types of people make bad decisions in college.
I am taking that from seeing it first hand with my friends from pope john.
I went to public school. I keep in touch with all of my friends there, and yes they do what most people do in college but not to the extent of most of my frineds from pope john and other private schools.
That doesnt mean everyone from private school will make a lot of bad decisions, but i think its fair to say when you live a sheltered child hood, you have a lot more to learn, and alot of times, you will be more eager to experience what its all about.
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Originally posted by Corbett:
I went to a private Christian school and I was not allowed to drink or smoke outside of school. I did both anyway but if I had been caught I would have been suspended or expelled. Part of going to a private school is living by the rules both inside and outside of the school.
I have some SERIOUS issues with that. It smacks of big brother and nothing but. I leave school, am off of school grounds, their sphere of influence is GONE. They're teaches and administrators, NOT parents.
I would also argue that the biggest part of going to a private school is the better education and smaller classes.
I had 9 years parochial school, and 4 years in public high school. I got a great book education in St. Joe's. My graduating class had 14 kids. The class after me was 16. Then the school closed. I learned to question, yet not outright defy authority (the religion classes left me with more unanswered questions than it did solutions). Thanks to public school, I learned what it meant to fend for myself, to stick up for myself, and to work my ass off to get a better education. I climbed my way through level 2/3 classes Freshman year to level 1/ap classes my Senior year. I went to a graduating class of over 200 people. I found out who I was, and wasn't afraid to be different anymore. I also met the girl who would be my wife 13 years later.
Going back on topic, IMO, the school can feel free to ban the sites on campus, but as soon as those kids walk through the exit after the bell, they've got no control. And that's how it SHOULD be.
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Originally posted by bishop375:
Thanks to public school, I learned what it meant to fend for myself, to stick up for myself, and to work my ass off to get a better education.
FWIW, I learned these things in K-12 Catholic school as well.
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Going back on topic, IMO, the school can feel free to ban the sites on campus, but as soon as those kids walk through the exit after the bell, they've got no control. And that's how it SHOULD be.
No. The school gets to choose who they want to keep and who they want to expel. THAT is how it should be.
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Originally posted by bishop375:
Going back on topic, IMO, the school can feel free to ban the sites on campus, but as soon as those kids walk through the exit after the bell, they've got no control. And that's how it SHOULD be.
That's fine. It's you opinion. However, if they want that they can go to public school. Yes I did not like the rules either when I was in high school but they are still there for a reason. One of the reasons is they want you to live a Christian life inside and outside of school to reflect what they believe. So why would they allow someone to be in their private institution if they can't follow the rules?
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catholicism is a lifestyle in and out of school and church. don't like the rules, move on. if you're under 18, suck it up or emancipate yourself. do i think the principal is wrong on this one? yup. do i think he has the right to enforce his rules? yup. now then, how about we get back to catholic schoolgirl spankings! 
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There are reasons that are possibly not announced...
At my school in Cleveland Ohio we were at one point not allowed to access cleveland.com's forums because there was a serious threat made that was investigated by the FBI to one of the students.
Yet the same bad press came up about my school from the story and they exactly left out the reasoning and made it a blame catholocism smear..
The FBI arrested several people etc. Yet none of this made the news, but the fact of them simply keeping us off cleveland.com was what was publicized.
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--"I don't see this as censorship," McHugh said this week. "I believe we are teaching common civility, courtesy and respect."--
i think the administration should learn to voice themselves a bit better. how is not expressing yourself being civil, courtious and respectful?
granted, they're young and impressionable; and they're probably just doing it 'because everyone else is doing it.'
but it's still expressing yourself and your opinions of some of the things in your life.
--"The sites appeared on the school's radar when administrators learned a student was communicating online with someone who was not truthful about who they were, their age and where they lived, said McHugh, who declined to elaborate."--
aside from religion or politics or anything at all, i'd like to simply call 'bullsh**'.
the administration - i think - not only 'found out' about this, but had a hand in it. that entire article spells out 'one of our staff is one of the sexual predators we're talking about.
OR
one of the kids was posing as someone older, got in touch with someone on the staff, and mislead them, and somehow was caught, and the staff member felt insulted.
through the article they're talking about how it's "for the safety of the children," but this all spawned from an incedent that no one's commenting on?
bullsh**, bullsh**, bullsh**
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Originally posted by MX Racer:
now then, how about we get back to catholic schoolgirl spankings!
and she was a hot blonde too  
Originally posted by Tourgasm:
Sometimes you can mess up a word so bad that spell check doens't know what the hell you're talking about.
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Originally posted by Corbett:
One of the reasons is they want you to live a Christian life inside and outside of school to reflect what they believe.
Ok, I can bite that. But *wanting* you and *forcing* you are two completely different things. I thought love and understanding were a part of the religion, esp. on the part of the "leaders?"
Originally posted by Corbett:
So why would they allow someone to be in their private institution if they can't follow the rules?
I'm doing my best to not bring the priest molestation charges up in this, but it's not easy. It is a completely different thing to tell a person they can't loiter on school property, run in the halls, chew gum in class, wear gang colors, carry cell phones in the school, than to tell them that they can't have a picture up on a website. That is *not* up to the school, that is up to the parents. If the school made it a point to contact the students' parents, and informed them of what was going on, I could understand. Making them bring home a note to be signed and brought back, sure, I'm down with that. But flat out suspending or expelling the kids? No, I don't buy it.
And, as Greasy mentioned above, it *is* fairly suspicious IMO that they won't go into any detail, unless there is some sort of criminal investigation going on that they can't talk about legally.
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Originally posted by bishop375:
That is *not* up to the school, that is up to the parents.
But by sending their kids to private school, the parents have chosen to assign a portion of their kids' moral upbringing to the school. You might not agree with that strategy - I certainly don't - but I'm not going to tell someone what their private school should or should not be doing. I can hope that the parents realize this type of oppression is unhealthy, but at the end of the day it's not really any of my business.
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