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Originally posted by 99cougar:
"The SVT TB shaft will not work on the 65mm TB"
ys it will Y@KSVT has it in his car right now...don't you?
no...it will not work correctly, the tab does not stick thru far enough to properly connect to the TPS. Also the o-rings/groves just barely catch the edge of the bearings that may lead to a possible leak. You need to use the SVT linkage plate on the 65mm TB shaft for it to work correctly.
no I don't have one on my car right now 
Here are accurate measurments of the SE 54mm, SVT 60mm, & Mustang 65mm TB shafts.
SE 54mm: 5.368" (5.865" end-to-end, tabs included)
SVT 60mm: 5.368" (5.760" end-to-end, tabs included)
Mustang 65mm: 5.192" (5.584" end-to-end tabs included)
They are not interchangable do to the spacing of the o-rings/groves on either side of the plate and the offset of the plates as well.
Here are some pic's of the TB shafts w/end linkage plate and TB plates. In the same order as they are listed above.
SVT 60mm TB shaft (black one) & Mustang 65mm shaft...Mustang TB shaft is a good bit shorter then the SVT TB shaft.
With the TB plate slots lined up you can see how the SVT TB shaft (top) will be too short on the TPS side and too long on the linkage side.
SVT 60mm TB shaft (top) & Mustang 65mm TB shaft (bot) with linkage plates removed
SVT TB linkage plate ready to go on Mustang TB shaft
SVT TB linkage plate installed on Mustang TB shaft
now it will work in the Mustang 65mm TB with some monor mods to the Mustang TB housing around the spring retainer tabs.
Scott
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Good info Scott!! This could make for a possible sticky?! Anyway, I'm going to take a look when I get home, and see exactly what I did. I swear I remember using the SVT shaft and having to dremel out some of it to fit the 65mm plate. Maybe I did, maybe I didn't.. Maybe I fugged something up, and that's causing my intake leak.  Maybe I should have passed on that last hit of crack, cause I can't remember what I did!!  Mark
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Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
Good info Scott!! This could make for a possible sticky?!
Anyway, I'm going to take a look when I get home, and see exactly what I did. I swear I remember using the SVT shaft and having to dremel out some of it to fit the 65mm plate. Maybe I did, maybe I didn't.. Maybe I fugged something up, and that's causing my intake leak. Maybe I should have passed on that last hit of crack, cause I can't remember what I did!!
Mark
thanks...been messing around with these for a while You do have to dremel or grind away the swaged end of the TB shaft to separate the linkage plate from the shaft. You then need to drill out the end and tap it so you can put in a screw to reassemble as shown in my last pic. I'm sure some may have fugged it to make it work but I'm trying to do it right. I just don't like fugged stuff on my car if I can avoid it 
Scott
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Dynojet Dyno: 171.1hp/148.9lb
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i def say stickie his pics and info...we're never going to get anything like he's given again.
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Just for reference, Mark and myself both used the SVT shaft with the 65mm TB.
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Originally posted by beyondloadedSE:
Just for reference, Mark and myself both used the SVT shaft with the 65mm TB.
Not saying it isn't posible but it is borderline. The shaft o-ring seals are right on the edge of the TB opening and the tab for the TPS just barely sticks out past the housing...barely making contact with the TPS. I'll post more pic's tomorrow with both shafts installed in a Mustang 65mm TB to better show the differences I have described.
Scott
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Dynojet Dyno: 171.1hp/148.9lb
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Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
Hmmm.. Strange.. I'm using the SVT(60mm T/B) shaft on my Mustang(65mm T/B)..
Mark
The distance from the side of the throttlebody housing to the end of the shaft where the fulcrum lever sits is about 34mm I think. Shaft diameter is 10mm. This is the important part for the SVT springs to be used.
Obviously the cougar sports a smaller diamter plate so you will probably find that the shaft is overall shorter.
If the cougar MTX uses the same type of TB linkage then you can make this thing work.
Too bad you didn't just contact me to make you a 70mm TB or convert your 65mm over to full SVT linkage.
So what do you need right now? If you have a fully working 65mm TB that you want to keep working but you need an SVT TB shaft for your SVT TB and then you want to put his linkage on the end of the shaft.
Wouldn't it be easier for you to put your SVT TB back together stock then take his cougar MTX TB in trade, then build your 65mm from that?
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The absolute best way is to utilize the 65mm shaft and just extend the length correctly before installing the SVT lever.
That is what I do when I convert over the 70mm TB. I've just built two new 70mm TBs, one for Fastcougar who actually has it back already.
Anyway, by having the exact shaft length on the larger TB you get a perfect bolt up without having to bend the cable brackets or have the cables coming out at an angle.
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I could have swore that the reason I used the SVT shaft was because of the direction that the SVT cables opened the throttle body. I'm pretty sure that the SVT opens one way, when the 65mm T/B opens another, which is why I had to swap the shaft out.
I guess I'm not seeing exactly what you're getting at Tom. What do you mean by extending the shaft?
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Originally posted by warmonger:
The absolute best way is to utilize the 65mm shaft and just extend the length correctly before installing the SVT lever.
That is what I do when I convert over the 70mm TB. I've just built two new 70mm TBs, one for Fastcougar who actually has it back already.
Anyway, by having the exact shaft length on the larger TB you get a perfect bolt up without having to bend the cable brackets or have the cables coming out at an angle.
Tom, are you making new shafts the correct length ? I have made one but not a real easy task to get the tabs on both ends at the correct angles. Or do you cut the end off at the lever and make a small spacer to go in between...use a long screw to hold the lever on and spacer? I understand exactly what you are saying about the length of the shaft for the SVT spring and propper location of the linkage lever just wondering how you are doing it?
Scott
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Mustang Dyno: 171.6hp/145.3lb
Dynojet Dyno: 171.1hp/148.9lb
1989 20th Anniversary Turbo T/A "Indy 500 Pace Car"
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