SonofaNun, you're an idiot. Everyone who knows what's going on is laughing at you. You don't know anything about brakes or racing. This thread is about brakes, and using them on street cars that race. So why did you post?

You want to know how I knew that you have as much place here as what I left in the toilet this morning?

Let's start with your signature:

KVR Performance Rotors & Pads
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Drilled rotors are not functional. They don't work. They are a bad idea, and a waste of money. They are bling. They probably won't fail you on the street, but they will NOT stop you better that blank rotors in any way, shape, or form. no way at all. On the track they can downright dangerous, since they tend to crack at higher temps. Racecars don't use them. Track junkies don't use them. And yet:

Originally posted by SonofaNun:

Well, looks like Kremit's HPS street pads might send him into a bad situation at the track...maybe with drilled rotors on the rear...good rotors front and rear probably would get the most out of his "autocross & track" pads, but he's worried about the cost not the proper setup.





That's right, you recommended him to use drilled rotors at the track. You are a moron, and just gave someone dangerous advice. Did you know if you mix ammonia and bleach it gets your whites whiter? and like I mentioned, if you know ANYTHING about racing and high performance driving, you know Hawk. You don't. So it's pretty clear you're a newbie with no facts to back up his big mouth. You learned ten thousand times as much about brakes reading Rara's posts here than you did before CEG, I guarantee it.

And I note that you use the word track there. You see, this thread is about using pads at an autocross, yet you keep talking about the track. You say Kremit is going to the track. Then you get confused and call him a poser when he says he's not. Then you spout this off:

Originally posted by SonofaNun:

Quote:

Sounds like I have track plans for my contour? Well, again I don't have a track car, and have no plans on taking my cars to any track. I have autox'd my contour a couple times and it's OK. I autox my escort regularly and it's locally competetive. But what is all this about a track?




[evasion duly noted]

I've used autocross as often as I've used track...usually in the same sentence.





No, you used them interchangeably. This made it very clear to us that you didn't really grasp that there was a difference between the two.

That makes you even more laughable.

And more of an ass.

You're recommending someone do something for a track setup, when he's autocrossing. Let me get this through to you:

Autocross is not tracking the car. You can autocross on pads that would be bad for tracking, or pads like the HPS/HP+ that are good for track days. If you put full-out race pads on an autocross car, bad things are going to happen. They are very, very different, and the biggest differences in car setup are in the brake system. So you're giving advice about a very dangerous sport which you know nothing about.

Real nice, dickweed. Your spouting off may hurt someone someday. When a kid puts cross-drilled rotors and race pads on his car and slides through the first turn of an autocross into a corner worker, are you going to feel so proud of your little internet BS?

So I repeat: what are you doing here? You have no place answering questions and debating with the experts. Your place is to read and learn and ask questions.

So hubert shows up. You see, I showed this to some real race car drivers/builders/etc. because I thought they might enjoy a laugh. Well, I didn't think that after I so clearly refuted every little miniscule clump of puke you coughed up yesterday you'd come back for more. When hubert saw that, he couldn't help him self. He signed up and spouted off more facts. So I wouldn't pick on him for having a zero post count. You see, hubert knows his stuff. He has so much more experience than me that I'm his [censored], really. Since you're my b!tch, what does that make him to you?

And as for your personal attacks on Kremit: he has a riced-out Contour beater which never entered into this discussion until your ignorance of the topics at hand finally surfaced, as obvious as a sperm whale in a bathtub, for everyone to point and laugh.



He races an SCCA Solo II STS Escort, and hopefully he'll leave his ricer ways behind as he gets older. This is not a thread about his rice car. It's about his racecar. You know about one kind of car, and it's not the race car. Want to guess which one? Hind: you can talk shift knobs all day, because you seem to know your stuff there.


And then finally, if there was someone out there as dumb as you who hasn't realized your ignornace yet, you pull this one out of your ass:


Originally posted by SonofaNun:

Because the biggest hissies have come from an xcross *champ* that is running SS lines with pads that can't take the heat...on stock rotors...and pad slappers that throw xcross pads on stock rotors?
[...]
I have a street set-up that looks and performs better than stock. Just what I wanted and just what was recommended by some of the regs here. If I wanted to xcross, I'd go with all HP+...and I wouldn't run SS lines with stock pads and rotors.





Guess what, you illiterate mouthbreathing turdgobbler? Every time 'x' is substituted into a word it represents "cross". What the hell is "cross-cross"? It's autocross; auto-x, you ignorant crotch pheasant.

And we run STS, a class that doesn't allow rotor changes. Did you get that? We have no choice but to race with stock rotors. Mostly because... are you ready?

Stock rotors can provide excellent modulation and more than enough stopping power to exercise threshold braking, even with super-sticky STS tires. And they are more than up to the task of working with a high-torque compound like the HP* pads.

If you knew jack about brakes or x-cross (sic), you'd have known those two very important facts.

And yet, more insults. Guess what: I've had pad fade once, at the end of a very long autocross. I have a set of good pads ready to go, but I haven't bothered because my region doesn't have any courses that will fade my brakes. You see, street pads work just fine for x-cross (sic)...

Oh, never mind. You're not going to get it anyway. You're going to quote my post and cut it up into bite-sized little chunks so you can put "evasion" and other big words you don't understand in between, like a little post sandwich your mommy cut the crust of off.

Let me make completely sure you understand this before I go again:

You're an idiot. Everyone who knows what this thread is about knows it. You have wasted our time spouting off absolute rubbish and bad advice based on bullcrap marketing claims and internet hearsay. Everyone is laughing at you, and you're the only one who doesn't get it.


-Philip Maynard '95 Contour [71 STS | Track Whore] '97 Miata [71 ES | Boulevard Pimp] 2006 autocross results