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Originally posted by todras: I guess I'm the one drinking and owned.

Toddles own3d!
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Holy weird to look at batman! My car looks so strange to me like that. All silver, no grille...whoa. That was a fun day though, I bet that Honda driver still has nightmares, lol.
Shawn Clone
Jezabel- 1999 SE Sport V6 MTX- Severly wounded, comatose
Silver frost/Black Exterior-Midnight Blue Interior
The Firecracker- 1995 Mystique LS V6 MTX stock and backfiring like a rifle shot
I have 3 loves, my God, Brittany, and my Car.
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Drove one last night:
Overall, I think the vehicle makes a strong statement for the price point, but I would pay more to have a few changes made.
Look/Touch/Feel: I looked at a black SEL with almost every option on it. Overall, I would say the interior quality is a notch below the 2003-2005 Mazda6. The interior plastics are nicely grained and fit together well. The black accent work on the SEL looks nice as well. Added niceties are a trip computer with compass in the instrument cluster (which is perfectly functional, but not really appealing with a large blank space and no elecroluminescent feature), auto open/close for the moonroof, fan and temperature controls on the steering wheel (though placed in the hollow between the spokes instead of on them, where it is more convenient). I also think the door switches are all illuminated. I could not tell in the bright sunlight.
I am not used to the exterior styling. It is too blunt, heavy, and chromey for me. The overall shape lacks grace, and the chrome gives it an almost ghetto look.
All compartments and cupholders have a nice removable non-skid rubber liner that can be washed. Cleaning the cupholders is a major annoyance of mine with the 6. However, the cupholders are not covered, there is no cord port between the layers of the center console bin, and there is no ashtray or coin bin.
However, the overall feel of all latches and switches is a little flimsy and cheap. The headlamp switch felt particularly bad (worse than the similar switch in my Contour). The matte black stereo and a few other items also look cheap.
The layout is overall sensible. I particularly liked the single rocker switch for the moonroof over the unnecessary extra switch we have. However, I don't like the small low panel for the auto climate (fortunately, fan and temp are controllable from the wheel). The switches all blend together, as well as the heated seat buttons also there.
The seats themselves are decent front and rear. I found front support overall about the same as the 2003-2005 Mazda6 bucket, though the flatter design likely will provide less support to thinner people. The extra length of the car translates into rear seat legroom which is better than the 6. However, the Command Seating Ford is so heinously fond of rob the car of headroom front and rear. There is barely enough front seat headroom with the seat fully lowered and less rear seat head room than in my 5-door (which combined with the flatter cushions makes the seat less comfortable than the Mazda6, despite the additional legroom). The front seat also is only equipped with a 6-way power seat with a manual seatback lever (a major inconvenience) and a manual knob for lumbar (prefer power, but the knob is much nicer than our lever).
The trunk is nicely sized, I would need to see it next to a 6sedan to compare. The backs fold using a similar spring mechanism, though less nicely finished. There are no side cubbies for storing small items. The pass through opening height is limited by a large bar at the top of the passthrough.
Driving: The overall tuning is a half step softer than our Mazda6's, with less surface harshness. This would have been the perfect setting for the base/touring Mazda6, leaving them to design a real sport suspension for the enthusiasts. The overall handling is good, but just shy of the responsiveness and directness we are used to. Boost is about the same, but the centering is more vague and the wheel is a little more isolated from the road. The body leans a bit more (though not excessively) in tight or sweeping maneuvers. Ford decided to put the same Michelin Pilots on the 17" Fusions as Mazda screwed us into. It shows.
I have not driven a Mazda6 with the Aisin 6-speed ATX, so I cannot compare the 221hp V6 directly. It reminded me a lot of my MTX, but it upshifts too quickly. It took full throttle to hold the gear anywhere near redline. It does downshift well, however. There is no manual mode.
Overall, I think it's a good car for the price ($25,3xx as equipped), and will be a good car in class. It will likely sell well if buyers aren't turned off by the looks. However, there are simply too many little misses for it to be excellent.
Brad "Diva": 2004 Mazda 6s 5-door, Volcanic Red
Rex: 1988 Mazda RX-7 Vert, Harbor Blue.
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Car and Driver did a pretty nice review of it back in October... check out their website (www.caranddriver.com) for what they said about it Personally I think it's pretty edgy and different, the style that the automakers are going for nowadays... after all, they need to appeal to most, otherwise the companies just lose more money... Oh, and I'm sorry, but I have first dibs on Shawn's car...
The ride? Don't ask
Taken? Yes
The boy? NorMich99SE
And yes, I love his car, but can't wait for my own Contour...
How about a Green SVT?!
I'll be looking come the end of 06 
Oh, the ideas!!
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I still like the 626. The 2.5 Mazda motor with a 5-speed manual makes it move pretty quickly, and I still think the build quality is better than the 6. My girlfriend's 626 has 132K miles on it and it has less squeaks than my Contour at 57K. In fact, it barely has any. It's a tough decision to say what comes after the Contour...the Fusion has the looks, but that drive-by-wire might bother me a lot. The 2005 Maxima I drove had the lag for sure.
Last edited by Majisto; 10/12/05 01:47 AM.
2000 Contour SE
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Car and Driver is a source of statistics and high blood pressure, but not for any sort of automotive clue.
Brad "Diva": 2004 Mazda 6s 5-door, Volcanic Red
Rex: 1988 Mazda RX-7 Vert, Harbor Blue.
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And yet I still find it fun to read...
Ah well, to each their own I suppose
The ride? Don't ask
Taken? Yes
The boy? NorMich99SE
And yes, I love his car, but can't wait for my own Contour...
How about a Green SVT?!
I'll be looking come the end of 06 
Oh, the ideas!!
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Originally posted by Zoom Zoom Diva: It will likely sell well if buyers aren't turned off by the looks.
People complain if a car looks like a mix of something else but when a fresh design comes out it sucks? Bah! I think it looks fantastic.
-'96 SE MTX 3L
-'98 SVT 1,173 of 6,535
-'05 Mazda 6s, loaded, g/f's ride
-Need a 96-00 manual on CD? PM or email me
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After finally seeing it in the flesh I'd rather have a Five Hundred.
-- 1999 SVT #220 --
In retrospect, it was all downhill from here. RIP, CEG.
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-'96 SE MTX 3L
-'98 SVT 1,173 of 6,535
-'05 Mazda 6s, loaded, g/f's ride
-Need a 96-00 manual on CD? PM or email me
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