Contour Enthusiasts Group Archives Forums General General More funny BS over at DSMtalk....

Ok,

Here is my answer.

I assumed constant accelerations from 0-60, 60-100 and 100-120 (since those were the only data points I had to calculate rate of acceleration) Plus, at least for the Contour, that made for about a 16 second quarter mile time, so it was pretty close. (I mean, this is bench racing after all, right.)

At about 6.3 seconds, the GSX is about 6 meters in front of the SVT or about a car length. The GSX has traveled about 83M vs the 77M of the SVT.

The SVT will not again be even with the GSX until about 18.9 seconds from start, where using my approximations, both will have travelled about 520M

The SVT is 6M ahead at about 23.6 seconds from the start at a distance of about 736M for the SVT and 730 for the GSX.

So if you are going to race a GSX, you better have about 1/2 mile to do it

TB

and pray like hell he doesn't have any mods. My first car was a '90 GS Turbo - one of the first ones ever sold (bought in 12/88). 1st and 2nd gears, it was definitely faster than the SVT. The GS Turbo's and later GS-T's were faster than the GSX's due to the weight advantage.

However, stock at least, I can vouch for the SVT and turbo DSM cars being relatively even from 3rd gear on. Problem is, mods on those cars are so cheap that the odds of coming across a stock one aren't so much in our favor. And yes, the SVT handles better than my DSM did - no independent suspension on my Eclipse, but I forget if the AWD cars had them.

Jim Harris
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Damn cant beat that, no sir, can not beat that, overall the CSVT prob does have it better and besides, this is competeing against an extremely lighter car with a turbo. Ours is N/A and his is not, so you look at it that way... take his turbo off and see what it can do against a CSVT, once you throw a turbo on a CSVT with a 18psi of boost like he runs and we will see who gets beat by 1.5 car (or bus) lengths!!

I like the eclipses to and yes the older gens are easier to mod, but come on like i said i beat one in my Zetec tour!!! maybe it was because his was an auto convert but it still doesnt matter cause he is still at least 400-500lbs lighter than me easily especially with all the shiznit i have in my baby...

but no one will truely know until it is officially recorded... just my .02cents!

You guys are throwing out some good views here, now im really interested on this subject, im goin to have to see if one of my buds with the eclipse T can race this guy i know with the 99 CSVT at coastal! I will let you guys know how we did at the 1/4!!

Remember, I didn't specify where or how long the race was. I simply said its not impossible to win. I proved it in reality and you proved it on paper. Could I do it again? Probably not. But I had to try that one time. And I did succeed.

-R-

You are correct. And this was a stock situation. The way I pulled away at speed was weird. That's why I said it could be driver error. I've seen them at the track run slower times than me. Again driver error. Either way, stock or not, those things can move. They get props from me.

-R-

I just checked the thread and the guy says it was a GRAY Contour. Mabye he actually raced an automatic Zetec!

It seems everyone here is comparing 1/4mile times for the most PART, STOP!!! it's just KillFight! For the lucky few that decide to use Drag Slicks and are already in the 14's with there SVT they'll either be even or win but other than that it's useless. I wouldn't consider Superchargers, Turbos', NOS or 3L into the winning equation as these guy's are dogging our cars as what they see it as a 2.5L POS.

Here's my reaction to these IDIOT's...If he's running trap speeds of 91mph and since there's not much room for mistakes with a AWD except at take off (babies the Drivetrain) or unless he mishifts, thats one slow DSM for all those mods. The only reason for his killer times is the first 60ft & 1/8mile. Other than a 1/4 Drag Race, I can tell you all I would hand this IDIOT his A*S on the street, Autocross or Roadcourse in my POS Grocery Getter. :rolleyes:

Obviously these guy's are a bunch of Story Tellers because they seemed to come out of the Wood Works with SVT kills in every direction, even from mostly stock DSM's. I personally own a DSM TSI, and I realize the car has much capability, but in a street race where 1/4 mile isn't the end a stock SVT would either tie or beat a stock DSM. I've had my fair share of racing DSM's mostly on our Road Course 1 on the street, and I can tell you one thing I haven't loss to one yet.

I'd say these IDIOT's are Uneducated People Talking Nonsense...