I dunno about complete crap: they're very sticky. They aren't nearly the tire the KDWs are, and have much softer sidewalls, but they are way ahead of Kuhmo Z212s, and at least as good at the AVS ES100, for less money.

-Philip Maynard '95 Contour [71 STS | Track Whore] '97 Miata [71 ES | Boulevard Pimp] 2006 autocross results