Originally posted by chrisilversvt:
Originally posted by SVTCJ:
But back to the original post, an F-body will go faster for a lower total investment than the same model Mustang.

It will suck while doing it though




if that's the case than you take any f-body,and i'll take my '95 gt......give us both $5k for mods for each and i'll guarantee you my '95 will show its taillights to the f-body in pretty much any competition...but that's because i could buy twice the things that the fbody owner can buy for the same money...



Once the modding starts all bets are off. I'm referring to STOCK vehicles. I can take $5k and throw it at a clapped out Vega and outrun Vipers in a straight line. That doesn't mean it's a decent car. It would be a $50 car wrapped around $4950 worth of 383 stroker crate motor.

The Mustang does have a better aftermarket, but for $5k you are talking blower. And most hi-dollar mods are about the same price for Mustang or Camaro. Plus you have to take into account that just because someone bought the "Incredible Wunder Uber Gotterdammerrung" doesn't mean it will achieve the claimed horsepower. Mods have to be tuned to realize their potential. You can throw a $1000 BG double pumper on an engine and it will run like crap unless the engine is tuned for it.

To make it fair (?) take a '95 Z28 with the LT1. 275hp (underrated)Bone stock 14.0 flat at 100mph is common and high 13's not out of the question. An LS1 wouldn't be fair.

A '95 GT has 215? stock? and runs high 14's on a good day(the lighter non-SN95s ran mid 14's on a good day stock).

Both stock.

Now add the $5k in mods.

With the Stang you'd do gears first (stock either 2.73 or 3.08 needs to be 3.55 or 3.73 depending on engine combo.), exhaust, blower kit, and have a little left over for odds and ends.

With the Z28 you'd get the blower kit and have enough for exhaust and intake. It came standard with 3.42 gears and T-56 so gear change not really necessary.

I'd still put my money on the Z28 in a straight line. Of course there is always the chance that the sucky Opti-Spark ignition will fail and kill the car before it gets to the end of the 1/4. Or it may grenade the rear end.

The Stang stands a chance of nuking the T5/T45 if a shift is rushed. The rest of it is quite solid.

If you put drag radials on both I lean toward the Stang simply due to the rear axle. A Z28 with drag radials on the stock axle is asking for trouble if abused. A Stang axle is good for 11's.

Don't get me wrong. I'd prefer the stang any day of the week. I just don't think that it can take a Z28 with similar mods in a straight line. It is starting off with a 48 cu in disadvantage and the LT1 is not the dog the TPI 350 was. The LS1 (actually 346 ci not 350) is a whole 'nother ballgame.

I used to own an '87 LX 5.0 and was wrapped up in the Mustang performance scene. It was a great car and I beat it senseless and it kept coming back for more with no complaints for 120k miles. It is still running today with 250k+ on the original engine. But I saw a few Z28 taillights. I didn't have mine anymore when the LS1 came out so I never raced one of those.

Enjoy your Stang and know you have the better car. But not necessarily the fastest.

Whew, that was long. If you've read this far, I salute your patience and apologize for the length.

I just had to bring up a bit of reality.

OK here is a cut and pasted post from SVTPerformance. Look how many mods were needed to run with a STOCK LS1:
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I have raced a stock 02 t/a here in the city a few times with my mods listed below. They are very close races but if I get a good launch and don't make my teeth chatter, then I usually will win by about 1/2 a car length.
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When I had the 5.0 I was one of those guys who thought I owned the street. I know guys who own F-bodies who are still like that. My first humbling came at the hands of a Turbo 4 cylinder (at least it was a Lotus ) and one of my LS1 friends has met a Lancer EVO and been impressed by the clear taillights.

Last edited by SVTCJ; 10/07/05 12:25 AM.
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