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There were a few Camaros that had some zip..like the original Z28 was a nice car but still wasn't any competition for the Boss 302.
Because of this, GM did respond with their own 302 camaro that would pretty much run with the Boss.
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Funny how people want to upgrade and go faster and faster. We have a CSVT owner wanting to a Mustang SVT. And Im here with a regular Contour wanting to upgrade to an CSVT. Life you gotta love it!
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fwiw a stock ls1 is NOT faster than an 01 cobra stock for stock it is purely a drivers race....my cousin had an '01 cobra a couple years ago(he now has an '04)and it consistantly ran 13.5's to 13.7's which is right on par with a stock ls1...it is pretty much a drivers race...let's not even get into his '04 which has run a best of 12.8 with only a k&n drop in and flowmasters on it...
the ls1 camaro's while yes they do have a great engine,besides that there is hardly anything so great about it...the looks are purely redneck nascar mullet styling...the interiors are complete garbage...the seats sit so low it feels like your dragging the ground,not to mention the large hump in the pass. floorboard....not that the stang has a huge trunk,but try putting ANYTHING in an f body trunk....honestly i see no comparison at all,and i guess neither does anyone else in america,since the camaro is no longer made and the mustang is still going strong...
though gm is known for putting great engines in subpar cars...and the ls1 camaro's are a shining example....a great motor will only get you so far....
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Originally posted by csvt99:
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There were a few Camaros that had some zip..like the original Z28 was a nice car but still wasn't any competition for the Boss 302.
Because of this, GM did respond with their own 302 camaro that would pretty much run with the Boss.
This was the original Camaro Z28.
GM tried real hard to copy Ford's tried and true 5 litre powerplant but dropped it just as quickly because it wasn't as fast as the Ford 302.
Ford Started in the early 60's with the 260 ci v8
which was their answer to the Chevy 283.
The 1964 1/2 Mustang had a 260 V8.
Then they introduced the 289 in 1965 and it beat the 283 Chevy's with ease.There was even a 289 Hi-Performance with 271 Horsepower.Put into a 2500lb Mustang, it was FAST.
In 1969 it was upgraded to the 302 with a High performance version the Boss 302.Also the Shelby's were a force to reckon with thanks to Carroll Shelby who just completed his part with the New Ford GT...only $150,000.00 per copy 
Ford just always had an edge over Chevy and GM in general.
Chevy made some pretty cars that ran prety good but never was any competition for the Fords.
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Ok guys, you guys seriously should get a grip. Down here in Texas, things must be cheaper or something. I'm not lying to you. Second, ya'll must not realize I said EARLY C5 like as in 96 models. Plus, a Cobra just isn't a big force down here. And I can't believe you guys think a 13-second 396 Nova is slow and ugly. There must be something wrong with you. Oh, and a Camaro SS/TA WS6 will ALWAYS outrun a Stock Cobra. It has 6 gears. Now for a fast Ford, I would suggest buying a 70-s Mustang, but for 12-grand, all you are likely to get is a decrepit 6-cylinder.
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Originally posted by MadMerc97:
Ok guys, you guys seriously should get a grip. Down here in Texas, things must be cheaper or something. I'm not lying to you. Second, ya'll must not realize I said EARLY C5 like as in 96 models. Plus, a Cobra just isn't a big force down here. And I can't believe you guys think a 13-second 396 Nova is slow and ugly. There must be something wrong with you. Oh, and a Camaro SS/TA WS6 will ALWAYS outrun a Stock Cobra. It has 6 gears. Now for a fast Ford, I would suggest buying a 70-s Mustang, but for 12-grand, all you are likely to get is a decrepit 6-cylinder.
C5 Vette = 97-04 GET A CLUE!
A 13 second Nova can still be ugly, 1/4 mile times don't make a car look good. And a 13 second 1/4 mile isn't fast.
A 6-speed WS6/SS will outrun the Cobra because it has one more gear? You're joking right? Well in that case I'm picking up a Focus SVT or Toyota Celica with the 6 speed because they must be fast!!
You sir are showing just how ignorant you really are.
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Ain't that the truth. A few years back 13s were 'fast,' but in today's world, that's just 'pretty quick' IMO. And the 03/04 Cobra's have 6spds so, they must be pretty fast too...oh wait, they are faster than the LS1s (F-Body). Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
And a 13 second 1/4 mile isn't fast.
A 6-speed WS6/SS will outrun the Cobra because it has one more gear? You're joking right?
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Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
Originally posted by MadMerc97:
Ok guys, you guys seriously should get a grip. Down here in Texas, things must be cheaper or something. I'm not lying to you. Second, ya'll must not realize I said EARLY C5 like as in 96 models. Plus, a Cobra just isn't a big force down here. And I can't believe you guys think a 13-second 396 Nova is slow and ugly. There must be something wrong with you. Oh, and a Camaro SS/TA WS6 will ALWAYS outrun a Stock Cobra. It has 6 gears. Now for a fast Ford, I would suggest buying a 70-s Mustang, but for 12-grand, all you are likely to get is a decrepit 6-cylinder.
C5 Vette = 97-04 GET A CLUE!
A 13 second Nova can still be ugly, 1/4 mile times don't make a car look good. And a 13 second 1/4 mile isn't fast.
A 6-speed WS6/SS will outrun the Cobra because it has one more gear? You're joking right? Well in that case I'm picking up a Focus SVT or Toyota Celica with the 6 speed because they must be fast!!
You sir are showing just how ignorant you really are.
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Hey buddy, sorry about that, I could have swore the build date on 97s was 96. I'm not ignorant pal. And if you really have to know, the Cobra handles like utter hell. Any of them. Take your pick. Udersteer at high speeds is the name of the Cobras game. If quarter mile times don't make a car great than the Cobra isn't good for anything.
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Originally posted by MadMerc97:
Hey buddy, sorry about that, I could have swore the build date on 97s was 96. I'm not ignorant pal. And if you really have to know, the Cobra handles like utter hell. Any of them. Take your pick. Udersteer at high speeds is the name of the Cobras game. If quarter mile times don't make a car great than the Cobra isn't good for anything.
A Cobra handles MUCH better than the plastic rattle box of a "sports car" WS6. The steering was always crap, hard to turn, and the interior size was rediculous. Not to mention is weight.  IMHO, an 02-04 Cobra is better built than a WS6 or corvette.
I wonder why I alsways see mustangs autocrossing... but have NEVEr seen a WS6 before. Hmmm... 
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