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No, really. I am currently pursuing a Masters of Divinity degree at Denver Seminary here in Denver, Colorado, with an emphasis on Youth and Family Ministry. I am planning to be a youth pastor at some point in the future.
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oh i believe you. im just pointing out that we have self-scholared ministers already amongst us.  good luck in your studies.
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Originally posted by svt4stv:
oh i believe you. im just pointing out that we have self-scholared ministers already amongst us.
He's not self-scholared though. 
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I got this email today from sojo.net. I thought others might find it interesting as we had discussed negative attitudes towards the poor. I agree that if you're poor and lazy then you're the problem. But if you want to work and make things better for yourself you shouldn't have to deal with a government that hinders rather than helps.
Dear Alex,
On Sept. 8, President Bush issued an executive order suspending the application of the Davis-Bacon Act in the hurricane-ravaged areas of Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, and Florida. This alarming action virtually assures workers hired to rebuild the devastated region will be paid sub-poverty wages.
The law requires federal contractors to pay workers the average or "prevailing" regional wage for public construction projects. In New Orleans, that wage is just over $9 an hour. The act's suspension allows contractors to pay as little as $5.15 an hour - the current federal minimum wage - for these projects.
Addressing the nation from the French Quarter of New Orleans two weeks after Hurricane Katrina hit, the president vowed, "Throughout the area hit by the hurricane, we will do what it takes, we will stay as long as it takes, to help citizens rebuild their communities and their lives." The following day at a prayer service at the National Cathedral in Washington, D.C., Bush declared, "As we clear away the debris of a hurricane, let us also clear away the legacy of inequality."
Suspending the Davis-Bacon Act does just the opposite; it assures the persistence of the inequality that plagued much of the Gulf Coast long before Katrina. Workers who lost everything in the rising waters cannot be expected to support their families on $5.15 an hour. As these women and men begin to rebuild their lives and their communities, they desperately need a just wage from their government, not a pay cut.
As people of faith, we believe every person has the right to productive work and to fair compensation for that work. Rebuilding New Orleans and the Gulf Coast means more than just clearing away the debris and erecting newer, stronger buildings. It means making budget and policy decisions that offer Gulf Coast workers and their families the best shot at a secure and dignified future. It means defending and upholding - not suspending - laws that were designed to keep hard-working people afloat in the American economy.
Members of Congress agree, and many are taking action to reinstate the wage protections enshrined in the Davis-Bacon Act. Rep. George Miller (D-Calif.) has introduced the "Fair Wages for Hurricane Victims Act," a bill that would repeal Bush's suspension of Davis-Bacon. This legislation has already garnered the bipartisan support of 199 cosponsors. Sen. Edward Kennedy (D-Mass.) has introduced a similar measure, the "Fair Wages for Hurricane Katrina Recovery Act." This bill currently has 29 co-sponsors from across the political spectrum.
These numbers are encouraging, but they are not enough. In the words of Sen. Evan Bayh (D-Ind.), "The workers whose wages would be cut are the same women and men struggling to support their families and find new homes to replace the ones they lost in the hurricane. They deserve all the support we can give them, not a cut in pay when they can least afford one." It's time to act. The people of the Gulf coast are counting on.
Any thoughts?
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Originally posted by 04marauder:
I got this email today from sojo.net. I thought others might find it interesting as we had discussed negative attitudes towards the poor. I agree that if you're poor and lazy then you're the problem. But if you want to work and make things better for yourself you shouldn't have to deal with a government that hinders rather than helps.
Dear Alex,
On Sept. 8, President Bush issued an executive order suspending the application of the Davis-Bacon Act in the hurricane-ravaged areas of Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, and Florida. This alarming action virtually assures workers hired to rebuild the devastated region will be paid sub-poverty wages.
The law requires federal contractors to pay workers the average or "prevailing" regional wage for public construction projects. In New Orleans, that wage is just over $9 an hour. The act's suspension allows contractors to pay as little as $5.15 an hour - the current federal minimum wage - for these projects.
Addressing the nation from the French Quarter of New Orleans two weeks after Hurricane Katrina hit, the president vowed, "Throughout the area hit by the hurricane, we will do what it takes, we will stay as long as it takes, to help citizens rebuild their communities and their lives." The following day at a prayer service at the National Cathedral in Washington, D.C., Bush declared, "As we clear away the debris of a hurricane, let us also clear away the legacy of inequality."
Suspending the Davis-Bacon Act does just the opposite; it assures the persistence of the inequality that plagued much of the Gulf Coast long before Katrina. Workers who lost everything in the rising waters cannot be expected to support their families on $5.15 an hour. As these women and men begin to rebuild their lives and their communities, they desperately need a just wage from their government, not a pay cut.
As people of faith, we believe every person has the right to productive work and to fair compensation for that work. Rebuilding New Orleans and the Gulf Coast means more than just clearing away the debris and erecting newer, stronger buildings. It means making budget and policy decisions that offer Gulf Coast workers and their families the best shot at a secure and dignified future. It means defending and upholding - not suspending - laws that were designed to keep hard-working people afloat in the American economy.
Members of Congress agree, and many are taking action to reinstate the wage protections enshrined in the Davis-Bacon Act. Rep. George Miller (D-Calif.) has introduced the "Fair Wages for Hurricane Victims Act," a bill that would repeal Bush's suspension of Davis-Bacon. This legislation has already garnered the bipartisan support of 199 cosponsors. Sen. Edward Kennedy (D-Mass.) has introduced a similar measure, the "Fair Wages for Hurricane Katrina Recovery Act." This bill currently has 29 co-sponsors from across the political spectrum.
These numbers are encouraging, but they are not enough. In the words of Sen. Evan Bayh (D-Ind.), "The workers whose wages would be cut are the same women and men struggling to support their families and find new homes to replace the ones they lost in the hurricane. They deserve all the support we can give them, not a cut in pay when they can least afford one." It's time to act. The people of the Gulf coast are counting on.
Any thoughts?
Many economists believe creating artificial price floors and ceilings (Minimum wage is a price floor) is a hinderance to an economy, causing inflation and further inequality in the masses, by causing un-needed increases in the cost of production. Thus causing higher consumer prices as well as artificially moving the supply and demand curves upward.
Minimum wage law, as well as the Davis-Bacon act are really nothing more than political maneuvers to gain re-elections, and increase party numbers in a particular political body. The citizenry is happy to see a bugger paycheck, and do not really think about the fact they will be paying higher prices for their consumption later.
Would you rather see a paycheck for $200 a week, but will pay all your bills and leave extra cash for other things; or would you rather see a check for $2,000 a week, and only be able to pay just your bills with no money left over? Most of the population would choose the latter.
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Originally posted by 04marauder:
I got this email today from sojo.net. I thought others might find it interesting as we had discussed negative attitudes towards the poor. I agree that if you're poor and lazy then you're the problem. But if you want to work and make things better for yourself you shouldn't have to deal with a government that hinders rather than helps.
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Um, get your own thread going?
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Originally posted by Woodencross:
The only reason I said this was because it doesn't matter what a sect of Christianity says. It matters what the Bible says. The Bible is the inerrant word of God!
If there is only one truth in the bible but many versions from Man, does God lead every denom. or just one?
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Originally posted by Woodencross:
Um, get your own thread going?
Thanks for the tip. Are you the official thread nazi or something? Next time feel free not to respond to a post if it doesn't meet your guidelines.
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Originally posted by Viss1:
I've been told that believing Christ died for our sins is a guaranteed path into Heaven. A little ambivalence towards the less fortunate wouldn't seem to be a huge problem under that philosophy.
Right. You don't have to do anything and you just get to go to "heaven"(or whatever better place)? That's could be one of the most retarded things that I've heard from so called "christians". We have to obey the commandments set down by God and Christ (which btw, i believe are two seperate entities) so that we can be part of something bigger, whatever you may believe that that is. Honestly, I think that if everyone actually "studied to show themselves approved", the whole "who's religion is right" thing would not exist..as much. You have to take into account varying views on things, but as a general rule, if we looked at everything in the bible correctly, we would be able to say that we are true christians. Unfortunately, the christianity of today is not the same as the christianity of the 1st century believers or of Christ's day. If you look back through profane(secular) history, you will see that as an effort to join his nation together in unity, Constantine merged the then current religions of Christianity and Paganism into one to create christianity as we know it. Where do you think we get the idea of Christmas? Basically, the pagans had the winter sulctice, and they definately didn't want to give up their parties, so Constantine decided that they should call it christ's birthday to get the 1st century christians to go along with it. Same idea with Easter. Halloween...now that's a totally unreligious holiday...in fact, it was the polar opposite...but this itn't about the origins of holidays so i'll shut up now.
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Originally posted by ford zetec2:
after than, what do i do with the 98 short shifter? do I place it in there like it is?
Stick it in your butt and rotate.
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Originally posted by Cris'pus:
Originally posted by Woodencross:
The only reason I said this was because it doesn't matter what a sect of Christianity says. It matters what the Bible says. The Bible is the inerrant word of God!
If there is only one truth in the bible but many versions from Man, does God lead every denom. or just one?
See my note above about going back to the original Greek & Hebrew. This is something every pastor should be doing when they are writing their sermon. This way, they may be able to point out where the translation is incorrect and should have been something else.
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