Originally posted by fastcougar:
Not trying to stir up any crap, just trying to be the voice of reason. For comparisson sake:
This was on an mtx, no tuning (even dirty oil), short adapter cone filter and no cats, stock rear mufflers too.
They are the MSDS headers produced exclusively for Draxas ... aka: Duratec Performance. Cost is around $650 IIRC. These new headers are what ... $800-$900 more and make roughly the same HP 
The MSDS gets you nothing more than the headers from what I remember and you still have to cut up your alternator shielding. CP-e supplies an alternator bracket to move it away from the headers, they also supply a y-pipe for that price.
So I can assume the MSDS headers were connected to an optimized y-pipe if cats were removed. Not to forget the SVT cams the MSDS headers took advantage of.
Now compare what you get with MSDS to the CP-e equivalent in price. $650 vs $895.
Driving the Caliber
Side project: The LT-5 Fiero is being born..
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