well, poop -- the dealer who quoted me a price of $17000 was full of waste matter... he was citing a rebate which I can only get if I got a special invitation. So it's really $18000. Which means I'm still thinking of wussing out and getting the Vibe for $15500.


. . . Two zetec Contours, two blown head gaskets... for some reason I have a Japanese car now. anybody in California want a Diehard Gold 100 month battery? inquire by PM.