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do any of you guys know anything about paganism? and not what you've been told by your parents?! and how christianity stole alot of its ideas........ 
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Originally posted by tour96se:
this post needs more open minds..
I know your post does.
I like how every discussion about religion has at least one person chime in about a lack of open-mindedness. Religious people are always accused of being close-minded and obtuse, whereas those without faith or religion are Earth's saviors because they are so incredibly open-minded and free-thinking. One would think that is backwards, because those with faith open their minds to things which cannot be seen nor heard.
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Originally posted by Davo:
Originally posted by tour96se:
this post needs more open minds..
I know your post does.
I like how every discussion about religion has at least one person chime in about a lack of open-mindedness. Religious people are always accused of being close-minded and obtuse, whereas those without faith or religion are Earth's saviors because they are so incredibly open-minded and free-thinking. One would think that is backwards, because those with faith open their minds to things which cannot be seen nor heard .
.........so thats what we call dillusional people now?...religous.. 
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Originally posted by tour96se:
.........so thats what we call dillusional people now?...religous..
No. I call them open-minded.
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Originally posted by RTStabler51:
As for the Catholic church changing, why should it? Change to what degree? Should God conform t o our society's lack of morals and standards? I don't think so. We (humans) have done the changing, not God. Should any Christian faith change to suit society? No. IMO, it just so happens that weak people within those faiths are the ones who cry about churches not changing...
These are relevant questions and more than a few books have been written on the subject. You could easily argue that the church/christianity has changed dramatically over the years. Catholics and all other christians alike. Probably the reason why there are so many denominations today in the first place. When you don't like the way your church does things anymore, go start your own, Luther. Just in the U.S. you can trace differences in the ways American christians have viewed the significance of Jesus for example. Christians have not always stressed having a personal relationship with Jesus as critically as it is today. To read up a bit on this I recommend the book American Jesus.
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Originally posted by Davo:
There are plenty of religions and sects that I consider to be full of wack jobs, but I don't care, because they have nothing to do with me.
Is it because people feel threatened by Catholicism? 
Wrong! The Catholic Church CONSTANTLY attempts to influence politicians and push their political agenda. They ABSOLUTELY attempt to affect my life.
If they kept out of our politics, I'd have no problem with them either.
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Originally posted by zgendron:
Wrong! The Catholic Church CONSTANTLY attempts to influence politicians and push their political agenda. They ABSOLUTELY attempt to affect my life.
If they kept out of our politics, I'd have no problem with them either.
Whats wrong with that? Every other group out there can have influence in politics so why can't a Church? This is not different than any other group.
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Originally posted by Davo:
I like how every discussion about religion has at least one person chime in about a lack of open-mindedness.
That would be due to a long standing argument of "You don't believe in what I believe, so you must be crazy/stupid/going to hell"
On BOTH sides of the argument.
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I can't tell where you are on the issue of the church 'changing.' I agree that to some degree a church should evolve. However, what I don't agree with is the church changing to suit society's needs (homosexuality, pologomy, etc). One that was brought to light in my intro religion classes that I never fully thought about was about the denomintions within Christianity. It stated, which seems to be true to a degree, that the only thing same within all the different 'sects' of Christianity is the belief in Jesus. Originally posted by 04marauder:
These are relevant questions and more than a few books have been written on the subject. You could easily argue that the church/christianity has changed dramatically over the years. Catholics and all other christians alike. Probably the reason why there are so many denominations today in the first place. When you don't like the way your church does things anymore, go start your own, Luther. Just in the U.S. you can trace differences in the ways American christians have viewed the significance of Jesus for example. Christians have not always stressed having a personal relationship with Jesus as critically as it is today. To read up a bit on this I recommend the book American Jesus.
So does PETA, the oil companies, Liberial and Conservative movements, etc etc etc etc etc. Originally posted by zgendron:
Wrong! The Catholic Church CONSTANTLY attempts to influence politicians and push their political agenda. They ABSOLUTELY attempt to affect my life.
If they kept out of our politics, I'd have no problem with them either.
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